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12/27/2019  4:33 PM
Im not sure why this guy thinks he has not gotten a good look here. Carlisle, Fiz, and Miller. This guy has a wide open path with knicks. The only thing I can think of the knicks at least at the moment see RJ as the future 2 and knox the future 3 and he can't supplant RJ Barrett. Maybe knicks no way see him as the future PG. Lets be real, Fiz threw the ball out for them to compete for the starting job and they all banged heads and shyt the place up!
He don't feel he is getting a real opportunity? How about he just stay healthy and in shape long enough to string together 10 games?
Im not hating on him but knicks made a good faith investment in him and dammit I want him to stick and make the Darn KP trade at least look reasonable!!!!!!

Ok, Dennis and the two Dallas picks and any of the free agents for KAT!! LOL. The way Randle played the other night he very well could make it easy on the box score for them!!!

Im dumfounded by the knicks and most of the rumors.
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12/27/2019  5:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2019  5:09 PM
Looks like we traded one Diva for another. Two things kept DSJ from getting minutes, injuries and his motor. Could have been in the same conversation as some of the up and coming PGs in the league. PGs out there with half the talent, and twice the production because they're hungry.
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12/27/2019  5:12 PM
Why do do-nothing, achieved-nothing NBA players get to make trade demands? Like other posters have stated, not like he hasn't gotten a chance to play. STFU and sit down.
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GustavBahler wrote:Looks like we traded one Diva for another. Two things kept DSJ from getting minutes, injuries and his motor. Could have been in the same conversation as some of the up and coming PGs in the league. PGs out there with half the talent, and twice the production because they're hungry.

Regardless to what, it looks crazy that every single season there are players on the KNICKS requesting a trade. That doesn't happen on no other team.

If they are telling him we only have a few minutes for you here and there, wouldn't you request a trade, and I know he feels he can be more productive than frank giving the same amount of minutes.

This just adds to the dysfunction around this F/O, always fumbling and bumbling with the roster..

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12/27/2019  6:11 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:Looks like we traded one Diva for another. Two things kept DSJ from getting minutes, injuries and his motor. Could have been in the same conversation as some of the up and coming PGs in the league. PGs out there with half the talent, and twice the production because they're hungry.

Regardless to what, it looks crazy that every single season there are players on the KNICKS requesting a trade. That doesn't happen on no other team.

If they are telling him we only have a few minutes for you here and there, wouldn't you request a trade, and I know he feels he can be more productive than frank giving the same amount of minutes.

This just adds to the dysfunction around this F/O, always fumbling and bumbling with the roster..

DSjr may feel he can be more productive than Frank, but the hard data says otherwise. He had one good game.

I don't think this is on the FO. We traded for him, and the FO and a lot here thought that between 3 PGs, we'd at least get some good play, and with everyone's injury history, there be enough time for all of them.

I think DSjr is not built for the heavy demands of a major market like NY.
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Panos wrote:Why do do-nothing, achieved-nothing NBA players get to make trade demands? Like other posters have stated, not like he hasn't gotten a chance to play. STFU and sit down.

He’s been a bad player on a bad team and he probably figured he can play more on a different bad team and out of the spotlight. Ultimately he’s a guy that for a variety of reasons isn’t able to succeed in the NY spotlight. I think with a certain percentage of players that’s just the way it is. He’s probably more built for Minnesota or Phoenix or something like that.
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12/27/2019  8:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2019  8:56 PM
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

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HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

Back in the day a player had to prove he earned minutes. I know DSJ has been through a lot of adversity. But the good players, the so-called leaders at the point guard position play through it. I want a guy who sees a player like Payton signed on a one year deal and says eff it. Not a guy who cried when Luka Doncic comes in and accommodate his game or a guy who gets shook when a savvy vet comes in. I don't think DSJ looks right, but I hope he appreciates the fact that he's been playing like crap. Earn the damn minutes. If he can't step up to the challenge of Elfrid and Frank, then he's not built for this city.

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12/27/2019  9:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/27/2019  9:20 PM
This kid couldn't win minutes on the team with this worst PG situation in the NBA, He is a bust. If he was even average he would be starting based on potiental
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12/28/2019  8:16 AM
Apparently he is hurt:

https://nypost.com/2019/12/27/knicks-dennis-smith-has-same-injury-that-plagued-aaron-judge/

Dude is made of glass. If I can get a 1999 third round pick for him, I take it!

Honestly, he is a candidate to be released outright.

It's a distraction to the coach, front office and team to have him on the roster, unable to perform because he is always hurt.
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And the Knicks are going to try to accommodate his trade wishes while his value is at an all-time low? Boy, if this is true, this front office is comprised of a bunch of pushovers.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Allanfan20 wrote:And the Knicks are going to try to accommodate his trade wishes while his value is at an all-time low? Boy, if this is true, this front office is comprised of a bunch of pushovers.

They have accomomadated everyone who request a trade or waive..

And the stupid fcks just extended his contract..smh

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12/28/2019  11:12 AM
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Looks like we traded one Diva for another. Two things kept DSJ from getting minutes, injuries and his motor. Could have been in the same conversation as some of the up and coming PGs in the league. PGs out there with half the talent, and twice the production because they're hungry.

Regardless to what, it looks crazy that every single season there are players on the KNICKS requesting a trade. That doesn't happen on no other team.

If they are telling him we only have a few minutes for you here and there, wouldn't you request a trade, and I know he feels he can be more productive than frank giving the same amount of minutes.

This just adds to the dysfunction around this F/O, always fumbling and bumbling with the roster..

DSjr may feel he can be more productive than Frank, but the hard data says otherwise. He had one good game.

I don't think this is on the FO. We traded for him, and the FO and a lot here thought that between 3 PGs, we'd at least get some good play, and with everyone's injury history, there be enough time for all of them.

I think DSjr is not built for the heavy demands of a major market like NY.

Are you not counting their first 2 years?

Do agree that Smith and Frank may be better suited to be developed elsewhere. But that seems to be true for every young player we have had.

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BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

Back in the day a player had to prove he earned minutes. I know DSJ has been through a lot of adversity. But the good players, the so-called leaders at the point guard position play through it. I want a guy who sees a player like Payton signed on a one year deal and says eff it. Not a guy who cried when Luka Doncic comes in and accommodate his game or a guy who gets shook when a savvy vet comes in. I don't think DSJ looks right, but I hope he appreciates the fact that he's been playing like crap. Earn the damn minutes. If he can't step up to the challenge of Elfrid and Frank, then he's not built for this city.

So why didnt they give up on Frank?

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HofstraBBall wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

Back in the day a player had to prove he earned minutes. I know DSJ has been through a lot of adversity. But the good players, the so-called leaders at the point guard position play through it. I want a guy who sees a player like Payton signed on a one year deal and says eff it. Not a guy who cried when Luka Doncic comes in and accommodate his game or a guy who gets shook when a savvy vet comes in. I don't think DSJ looks right, but I hope he appreciates the fact that he's been playing like crap. Earn the damn minutes. If he can't step up to the challenge of Elfrid and Frank, then he's not built for this city.

So why didnt they give up on Frank?

Didn't they try to trade Frank?

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BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

Back in the day a player had to prove he earned minutes. I know DSJ has been through a lot of adversity. But the good players, the so-called leaders at the point guard position play through it. I want a guy who sees a player like Payton signed on a one year deal and says eff it. Not a guy who cried when Luka Doncic comes in and accommodate his game or a guy who gets shook when a savvy vet comes in. I don't think DSJ looks right, but I hope he appreciates the fact that he's been playing like crap. Earn the damn minutes. If he can't step up to the challenge of Elfrid and Frank, then he's not built for this city.

So why didnt they give up on Frank?

Didn't they try to trade Frank?

Yes. Didn't agree with that as well.

Btw, feel,"back in the day" they did not give up on 21 year old players in the first 20 games. Specially ones that averaged 15 and 5 their first 5 years.,

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franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Looks like we traded one Diva for another. Two things kept DSJ from getting minutes, injuries and his motor. Could have been in the same conversation as some of the up and coming PGs in the league. PGs out there with half the talent, and twice the production because they're hungry.

Regardless to what, it looks crazy that every single season there are players on the KNICKS requesting a trade. That doesn't happen on no other team.

If they are telling him we only have a few minutes for you here and there, wouldn't you request a trade, and I know he feels he can be more productive than frank giving the same amount of minutes.

This just adds to the dysfunction around this F/O, always fumbling and bumbling with the roster..

DSjr may feel he can be more productive than Frank, but the hard data says otherwise. He had one good game.

I don't think this is on the FO. We traded for him, and the FO and a lot here thought that between 3 PGs, we'd at least get some good play, and with everyone's injury history, there be enough time for all of them.

I think DSjr is not built for the heavy demands of a major market like NY.

It has nothing to do with the Knicks. He's a diva with a bad attitude. He's young enough yet to eventually mature but that won't happen here.

He claimed his off-season was an intensive reworking of his shot and game and he came in looking like a G-League walk-on. He's had one excuse after another.

Yes, he is a distraction and noise to Coach Miller who has important stuff to accomplish. DSJ didn't have to request a trade, its tattooed on his game face.

His contract is nothing more than ballast to make a multi-player trade work. He will likely be cut on the receiving end of that transaction.
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HofstraBBall wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:

NY trade rumors = Click bait.

Btw, would anyone actually be surprised that players want out of such a great organization?

Question, we trade our unicorn for what the FO thought was a future difference maker (One who had a decent second half with us) and then you continue his development by signing every PG with a pair of sneakers? Injuries aside, what kind of plan did we have with this kid and how exactly did we follow through? Same goes for Knox, Trier and Frank(when Bullock takes his minutes). Are we going to sign 3 or 4 SG next year to help develop(take minutes from) RJ,

Our plan changes every 2 years. (Coaches every year) How does anyone think players want to be a part of such short sighted management that has no real plan nor sticks to one?

Back in the day a player had to prove he earned minutes. I know DSJ has been through a lot of adversity. But the good players, the so-called leaders at the point guard position play through it. I want a guy who sees a player like Payton signed on a one year deal and says eff it. Not a guy who cried when Luka Doncic comes in and accommodate his game or a guy who gets shook when a savvy vet comes in. I don't think DSJ looks right, but I hope he appreciates the fact that he's been playing like crap. Earn the damn minutes. If he can't step up to the challenge of Elfrid and Frank, then he's not built for this city.

So why didnt they give up on Frank?

Didn't they try to trade Frank?

Yes. Didn't agree with that as well.

Btw, feel,"back in the day" they did not give up on 21 year old players in the first 20 games. Specially ones that averaged 15 and 5 their first 5 years.,

Who's giving up on who tho? The Knicks extended him and give him time to get his game together. DSJ is the one reportedly pushing for a trade. And that 15 and 5 was obviously the result of getting free reign on a bad team. I wasn't calling for a DSJ trade in the past, either. I wanted to see him build his value up. Now, I have serious doubts about his mental toughness.

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