fitzfarm wrote:The three point barrage is ruining the nba quite frankly it’s getting boring . The best thing the nba can do is bring back hand checking and physical defense... there’s a reason Reggie Miller didn’t become a super star like curry, teams didn’t allow him to fire at will.... something has to be done the three point shot is ruining the nba

same things were said about hand checking, so what's the middle ground?

franco12 wrote:I kinda like the wide open offensive play. My gripe is inconsistent calls (like when we get manhandled and none of our players get calls) and to an extent, the ticky tack foul.

I don't want a return to the holding and arm checking that went on.

I used to want them to add a four point shot - and maybe the thing to do is (wishful thinking) is turn the three pointer into a four, then anything outside the lane is a 3 pointer, and anything in the paint is a 2 pointer.

Honestly, the game is doing well. We just need to get some shooters so we can compete.

The ratings are way down. I used to watch whatever game was on when the Knicks weren’t playing. Now I might watch the end of the fourth quarter if it is close. Lots of entertainment options is definitely a factor but the style of play is as well.

CrushAlot wrote:

franco12 wrote:I kinda like the wide open offensive play. My gripe is inconsistent calls (like when we get manhandled and none of our players get calls) and to an extent, the ticky tack foul.

I don't want a return to the holding and arm checking that went on.

I used to want them to add a four point shot - and maybe the thing to do is (wishful thinking) is turn the three pointer into a four, then anything outside the lane is a 3 pointer, and anything in the paint is a 2 pointer.

Honestly, the game is doing well. We just need to get some shooters so we can compete.

The ratings are way down. I used to watch whatever game was on when the Knicks weren’t playing. Now I might watch the end of the fourth quarter if it is close. Lots of entertainment options is definitely a factor but the style of play is as well.

Me too, though as you said it is also partially due to other entertainment options. Think bball's future ratings wise will be broadcasting edited down games on streaming platforms (say 45mins to an 1hr) rather than 2-3hr live at daft times.

Allanfan20 wrote:They are also desperate to avoid Malice in the Palace part deux. That was all started by physical on court play.

And if there is incidental contact where there is no advantage, play on

djsunyc wrote:someone suggested somewhere that 3 point fouls should only result in 2 free throws.

interesting. I always thought if a player is fouled and misses shot and it would have been an assist on a made basket, passing player should get half assist on made FT

martin wrote:I think cutting out the up and under move by the offensive player should be eliminated, especially if the defensive player is just standing still in a stance. Why is it if the offensive player initiates contact with HIS arms (ala Harden) is it a defensive foul? In fact, if the offensive player tries to initiate contact at all, that should not be a foul.

And if there is incidental contact where there is no advantage, play on

fishmike wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:They are also desperate to avoid Malice in the Palace part deux. That was all started by physical on court play.

Oak had a good jump shot and I'm pretty sure would have been a good NBA 3p shooter if that was a skill he was pushed to to develop. He set bruising screens and was a fantastic m2m and help defender. Ewing was another guy with great range and I think those two would have been fine in today's NBA.

Maybe I meant Anthony Mason wouldn't have a career. You are correct, Oak had some other skills including his shot.

And yes the game has changed -- all of them do and always will. Doesn't mean I have to like it.