https://www.cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/20/onoff#tab-team_efficiency
I think that site is pay site, and this is a reshare from reddit, but I know some are really into the topic

	Position Estimate	+/- Per 100 Poss.	Turnovers	Fouls Committed	Fouls Drawn	Misc.
Rk	Player 	Age		G	MP	PG%	SG%	SF%	PF%	C%	OnCourt	On-Off	BadPass	LostBall	Shoot	Off.	Shoot	Off.	PGA	And1	Blkd
1	Ignas Brazdeikis	21	4	14			72%	29%		+16.7	+24.0	1	0	1	0	1	0	2	0	0
2	Damyean Dotson		25	10	129	6%	89%	5%			+4.9	+14.6	0	0	2	1	1	1	20	0	0
3	Elfrid Payton		25	4	102	100%					+3.0	+11.7	4	1	4	1	3	0	35	0	2
4	Frank Ntilikina		21	13	330	99%	1%				-1.7	+10.2	10	3	15	0	2	2	102	0	3
5	Wayne Ellington		32	11	147	45%	55%				-1.4	+7.0	3	2	5	1	0	1	23	0	2
6	Julius Randle		25	14	464				90%	10%	-5.6	+4.3	16	19	17	9	29	1	145	8	9
7	Marcus Morris		30	14	472			70%	30%		-5.7	+4.0	11	5	25	7	30	5	40	10	7
8	Taj Gibson		34	12	194				17%	83%	-6.5	+0.5	3	1	14	3	5	0	37	2	0
9	Bobby Portis		24	14	324				13%	87%	-6.8	+0.3	1	2	11	5	8	1	44	4	9
10	Mitchell Robinson	21	10	189					100%	-10.4	-4.8	1	2	19	3	14	1	11	4	4
11	RJ Barrett		19	14	470		88%	12%			-9.0	-7.0	23	7	18	4	38	6	117	7	14
12	Kevin Knox		20	14	308		4%	88%	8%		-10.8	-7.3	4	3	11	2	18	0	49	0	3
13	Allonzo Trier		24	8	117	62%	38%				-19.5	-15.3	4	3	7	4	5	1	29	0	3
14	Dennis Smith		22	7	100	100%					-29.3	-26.3	4	2	8	2	2	0	35	0	2

I think the biggest thing we are seeing is his improved strength and conditioning. He's physically fierce and can still get stronger. He's agile. His offense is going to come. He's too long to be so bad. I feel like his biggest potential is the pull up midrange game. He's starting to show some nice moves there and if he can get consistent will really help his PG play. Defenders still sag and dont respect his offense.

His handle is undeniably better than last year and he's shown a shifty quickness I have not seen in the past

fishmike wrote:the Knicks score 5.8 more points per 100 possessions and give up 5.7 fewer when Ntilikina is on the court. The resulting plus 11.5 total is easily the best among Knicks who have seen at least 150 minutes

https://www.cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/20/onoff#tab-team_efficiency
I think that site is pay site, and this is a reshare from reddit, but I know some are really into the topic

	Position Estimate	+/- Per 100 Poss.	Turnovers	Fouls Committed	Fouls Drawn	Misc.
Rk	Player 	Age		G	MP	PG%	SG%	SF%	PF%	C%	OnCourt	On-Off	BadPass	LostBall	Shoot	Off.	Shoot	Off.	PGA	And1	Blkd
1	Ignas Brazdeikis	21	4	14			72%	29%		+16.7	+24.0	1	0	1	0	1	0	2	0	0
2	Damyean Dotson	25	10	129	6%	89%	5%			+4.9	+14.6	0	0	2	1	1	1	20	0	0
3	Elfrid Payton	25	4	102	100%					+3.0	+11.7	4	1	4	1	3	0	35	0	2
4	Frank Ntilikina	21	13	330	99%	1%				-1.7	+10.2	10	3	15	0	2	2	102	0	3
5	Wayne Ellington	32	11	147	45%	55%				-1.4	+7.0	3	2	5	1	0	1	23	0	2
6	Julius Randle	25	14	464				90%	10%	-5.6	+4.3	16	19	17	9	29	1	145	8	9
7	Marcus Morris	30	14	472			70%	30%		-5.7	+4.0	11	5	25	7	30	5	40	10	7
8	Taj Gibson	34	12	194				17%	83%	-6.5	+0.5	3	1	14	3	5	0	37	2	0
9	Bobby Portis	24	14	324				13%	87%	-6.8	+0.3	1	2	11	5	8	1	44	4	9
10	Mitchell Robinson	21	10	189					100%	-10.4	-4.8	1	2	19	3	14	1	11	4	4
11	RJ Barrett	19	14	470		88%	12%			-9.0	-7.0	23	7	18	4	38	6	117	7	14
12	Kevin Knox	20	14	308		4%	88%	8%		-10.8	-7.3	4	3	11	2	18	0	49	0	3
13	Allonzo Trier	24	8	117	62%	38%				-19.5	-15.3	4	3	7	4	5	1	29	0	3
14	Dennis Smith	22	7	100	100%					-29.3	-26.3	4	2	8	2	2	0	35	0	2

I think the biggest thing we are seeing is his improved strength and conditioning. He's physically fierce and can still get stronger. He's agile. His offense is going to come. He's too long to be so bad. I feel like his biggest potential is the pull up midrange game. He's starting to show some nice moves there and if he can get consistent will really help his PG play. Defenders still sag and dont respect his offense.

His handle is undeniably better than last year and he's shown a shifty quickness I have not seen in the past

It’s nice to see we are a better team with him on the floor. As far as his offense , he doesn’t need to score a ton but needs to keep the defense honest. His shooting percents are still dead even with his career percents. No improvement whatsoever. And his midrange game looks good in theory but it’s the least efficient shot in basketball and should be limited. Bottom line he needs to shoot better than 32% from 3pt since he’s only taking open ones. 35% plus or he will remain a liability and best served as a backup. He might be throwback but in today’s game he must hit an open shot. He can get there but at some point needs to show improvement.

newyorknewyork wrote:I've really liked what I have seen from Frank, RJ and Dotson over the last few gms. Dotson has kind of been the forgotten man by us. But he is also going into his 3rd yr and has quality 2-way potential. Those 3 all bring 2 way potential and are a nice collection.

Keep giving Frank his reps until he is able to flow on his own. Demand better quality picks from the bigs to actually free up the guards.

I like Dotson too. I wish he wouldn’t take so many long 2s. His 3pt shooting has declined but I’m guessing if all those long 2s were 3s that wouldn’t be the case.

One thing that I would like Fizdale implement with RJ and Frank is posting them up. They have a mismatch in height every game at those positions. Clyde mentioned this on more than 1 occasion. He said him and Earl would fight over who is posting every game because they were bigger than their counterparts.

Vmart wrote:

arkrud wrote:Fans expectations for PG our days is scoring.
Frank is a throwback PG. He will never be flashy.
If Frank will get closer to Charly Wards, Derek Harpers, Tim Hardaways of the past it will be fantastic.
He need time zo to get there. This type of PG emerging when player gets physically and mentally mature.

Tim Hardaway Senior was a scoring machine his skill can probably translate well in this era of basketball.

NYKBocker wrote:Frank is an old fashioned type of PG. That's why he is such a polarizing player and why guys like knicks1248 hates him because he doesn't fit the view of what a PG has to be in todays NBA.

One thing that I would like Fizdale implement with RJ and Frank is posting them up. They have a mismatch in height every game at those positions. Clyde mentioned this on more than 1 occasion. He said him and Earl would fight over who is posting every game because they were bigger than their counterparts.

NYKBocker wrote:Frank is an old fashioned type of PG. That's why he is such a polarizing player and why guys like knicks1248 hates him because he doesn't fit the view of what a PG has to be in todays NBA.

One thing that I would like Fizdale implement with RJ and Frank is posting them up. They have a mismatch in height every game at those positions. Clyde mentioned this on more than 1 occasion. He said him and Earl would fight over who is posting every game because they were bigger than their counterparts.

Posting up the guards is a more advanced level of offense and would slow down ball movement for a potential mismatch. Knicks have barely been able to get guys involved with ISO from Randle/Morris, etc. and get their shooting on track. Dumping the ball down to RJ/Frank makes them decision makers in a spot without movement. Maybe next year.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Chandler wrote:they shouldn't be dumping him in the corner. His defender sags; he's not a threat there; and never gets the ball to keep the other team honest

he's 6'6" which is a luxury. he should be at the top of the key running PnR.

He isn't a threat there because he won't see the ball again to make him one. As teammates don't create for him as consistently as he is willing to create for them.

He hasn't created his own shot at a high enough level or take enough volume creating his own shot to make up for it. What has been done especially the last game with him working the PNR is the best route for his progress. Which translate to the team in a positive way since he is unselfish.

I would also think it's a lot easier to develop a floater or layup off a PnR than expecting him to be D.Rose in his prime. Also deep down we all know Frank would prefer to hit to the roller (or even popper)

He gets a couple of those assists going, his confidence goes up, and the plays develop

NYKBocker wrote:Frank is an old fashioned type of PG. That's why he is such a polarizing player and why guys like knicks1248 hates him because he doesn't fit the view of what a PG has to be in todays NBA.

One thing that I would like Fizdale implement with RJ and Frank is posting them up. They have a mismatch in height every game at those positions. Clyde mentioned this on more than 1 occasion. He said him and Earl would fight over who is posting every game because they were bigger than their counterparts.

Dude I like frank as much as i like anyone on the roster.

I don't like his role on the team, just like i don't like Randle as a Point Fwd, or melo without a true veteran pg.

Our starting pg is dead last in ppg among all points guards, starters and the ones coming off the bench

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/position/point-guard

49 point guards in the league shoot better and score more points...

we can't win consistently like that, and it's clearly obvious