The revolving door gets notice around the league from players/agents/

This is not ripping the knicks like ESPN, these are straight facts

In case you don’t recall, the Knicks entered July with nine free agents of their own.

Once the club got spurned early by Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, Knicks owner James Dolan’s crew had $74.8 million to throw around ($70 million in cap space plus the $4.8 million room exception).

It is telling that none of their nine free agents will be back as Knicks.

Not Noah Vonleh, though they entered the summer without a power forward on the roster. Not Mario Hezonja, whom general manager Scott Perry made the Knicks’ marquee free-agent signing last summer (the Magic had drafted Hezonja when Perry was assistant GM in Orlando).

Not point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, who finished the season as the Knicks’ leading scorer.

The Knicks weren’t outbid. The brass just didn’t want any of them back — with the exception of center DeAndre Jordan.

The Knicks sold player development, rather than their record, as the key element on which to judge last season. Yet not one of their nine free agents was considered worthy of another contract with the team.

That’s a stain on coach David Fizdale, who is off in Africa for Basketball Without Borders. Last summer, Fizdale was on a trip to Latvia to win over Kristaps Porzingis. The 7-foot-3 star, who was traded to Dallas in January, never played a single game for Fizdale, nor did he want to commit to playing for him in the future.

In July, the market for Knicks free agents wasn’t high after Fizdale’s Tank Machine finished a league-worst 17-65. Hezonja took the minimum contract from Portland. Mudiay, according to a source, signed a one-year minimum deal with Utah. Vonleh got a shade over the minimum with Minnesota.


New-age center Luke Kornet cashed in the most, signing a two-year, $4.5 million pact with Chicago. That prompted former Knicks president Phil Jackson to come out of hibernation and tell journalist Sam Smith: “We liked Luke out of college. He has a real touch.’’

So what gives? Knicks president Steve Mills said multiple times last preseason his hope was to have his free-agents-to-be perform so strikingly well, he would be forced to carve out cap space for them.

Despite Vonleh saying during his Timberwolves presser the Knicks “let me spread my wings and grow as a player,” the club instead lavished $15 million on Bobby Portis and $10 million on Taj Gibson for next season.

The only player the Knicks would have wanted back was Jordan, the veteran center acquired in the Porzingis deal who was hailed as a lure for Durant. Instead, Jordan served as an informant planted in Manhattan.

Jordan ultimately concluded Brooklyn was the place they should put down roots. So much for that culture Fizdale said he created amid the tank-fest.

“Not to knock the culture the Knicks are creating, but we like what Kenny’s doing and Sean’s been awesome and the organization, from top to bottom, has been great,” Jordan said over the weekend regarding Nets coach Kenny Atkinson and GM Sean Marks. “So you want to be a part of something like that, especially when you have a chance to play with other great players and build something.”

Mudiay took precious time away from Frank Ntilikina, who also could be gone soon as the Knicks decide whether to exercise his fourth-year rookie-contract option in October.

At his press conference in Utah, Mudiay said his confidant, former Knicks coach Larry Brown, recommended Utah coach Quin Snyder. Mudiay added Utah has a strong reputation for making its players better and he was drawn by never having been on a playoff squad as the Jazz were last season.

Lance Thomas, the Knicks’ long-tenured locker-room leader, still is unemployed after Fizdale last summer called him “a Swiss Army knife’’ whom he would get to rise in the Draymond Green mold.

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The 3-point specialist John Jenkins is still looking for a job. Former Pistons first-round pick Henry Ellenson jumped to the Nets. Former North Carolina forward Isaiah Hicks, a Knicks two-way G-Leaguer the past two seasons, didn’t develop and is looking for work.

SEE ALSO

Young NBA star has some advice for RJ Barrett
Fizdale has been incommunicado since free agency began, saying in Las Vegas the team is “holding me hostage.’’

At the press conference introducing No. 3-overall pick RJ Barrett on June 21, Fizdale did not sit next to Mills and Perry. Instead the coach was stationed on the last seat at the end and was asked just one question.

“It goes back to Chicago [combine] when we met with RJ,’’ Fizdale said in his most recent public remarks. “It was eight in the morning the next morning and he shows up like this [in a suit and tie]. Ready. Just that alone lets you know that he’s the kind of kid we want in our culture.”

What sort of culture Fizdale has built is unclear. Sadly, Mills and Perry have gone dark, too. Of the seven new signees, six are guaranteed for just one season. The way it has worked out, the revolving door may continue.

All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.

Mudiay took development minutes from frank, not only did they not resign him, they bring another point guard who is sure to take even more minutes from him.

Can you imagine another 9 new guys here next offseason..smh

Our development of Vonleh, Marion, Mudiay, and trey, got them minnum contracts, and knox still looks suspect..oh, he's 19

Also, if you want a culture change...dont you need type A veteran toughness and locker room leadership, do you really want to bring back some of those guys that left? Personally I like Vonley btw, but not sure I will miss the others.

knicks1248 wrote:I stated all these facts since FA closed shop for us, and while some are Gun Ho about the flexibility Mills and perry has giving us (something the entire league has done)

The revolving door gets notice around the league from players/agents/

This is not ripping the knicks like ESPN, these are straight facts

In case you don’t recall, the Knicks entered July with nine free agents of their own.

Once the club got spurned early by Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, Knicks owner James Dolan’s crew had $74.8 million to throw around ($70 million in cap space plus the $4.8 million room exception).

It is telling that none of their nine free agents will be back as Knicks.

Not Noah Vonleh, though they entered the summer without a power forward on the roster. Not Mario Hezonja, whom general manager Scott Perry made the Knicks’ marquee free-agent signing last summer (the Magic had drafted Hezonja when Perry was assistant GM in Orlando).

Not point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, who finished the season as the Knicks’ leading scorer.

The Knicks weren’t outbid. The brass just didn’t want any of them back — with the exception of center DeAndre Jordan.

The Knicks sold player development, rather than their record, as the key element on which to judge last season. Yet not one of their nine free agents was considered worthy of another contract with the team.

That’s a stain on coach David Fizdale, who is off in Africa for Basketball Without Borders. Last summer, Fizdale was on a trip to Latvia to win over Kristaps Porzingis. The 7-foot-3 star, who was traded to Dallas in January, never played a single game for Fizdale, nor did he want to commit to playing for him in the future.

In July, the market for Knicks free agents wasn’t high after Fizdale’s Tank Machine finished a league-worst 17-65. Hezonja took the minimum contract from Portland. Mudiay, according to a source, signed a one-year minimum deal with Utah. Vonleh got a shade over the minimum with Minnesota.


New-age center Luke Kornet cashed in the most, signing a two-year, $4.5 million pact with Chicago. That prompted former Knicks president Phil Jackson to come out of hibernation and tell journalist Sam Smith: “We liked Luke out of college. He has a real touch.’’

So what gives? Knicks president Steve Mills said multiple times last preseason his hope was to have his free-agents-to-be perform so strikingly well, he would be forced to carve out cap space for them.

Despite Vonleh saying during his Timberwolves presser the Knicks “let me spread my wings and grow as a player,” the club instead lavished $15 million on Bobby Portis and $10 million on Taj Gibson for next season.

The only player the Knicks would have wanted back was Jordan, the veteran center acquired in the Porzingis deal who was hailed as a lure for Durant. Instead, Jordan served as an informant planted in Manhattan.

Jordan ultimately concluded Brooklyn was the place they should put down roots. So much for that culture Fizdale said he created amid the tank-fest.

“Not to knock the culture the Knicks are creating, but we like what Kenny’s doing and Sean’s been awesome and the organization, from top to bottom, has been great,” Jordan said over the weekend regarding Nets coach Kenny Atkinson and GM Sean Marks. “So you want to be a part of something like that, especially when you have a chance to play with other great players and build something.”

Mudiay took precious time away from Frank Ntilikina, who also could be gone soon as the Knicks decide whether to exercise his fourth-year rookie-contract option in October.

At his press conference in Utah, Mudiay said his confidant, former Knicks coach Larry Brown, recommended Utah coach Quin Snyder. Mudiay added Utah has a strong reputation for making its players better and he was drawn by never having been on a playoff squad as the Jazz were last season.

Lance Thomas, the Knicks’ long-tenured locker-room leader, still is unemployed after Fizdale last summer called him “a Swiss Army knife’’ whom he would get to rise in the Draymond Green mold.

–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

The 3-point specialist John Jenkins is still looking for a job. Former Pistons first-round pick Henry Ellenson jumped to the Nets. Former North Carolina forward Isaiah Hicks, a Knicks two-way G-Leaguer the past two seasons, didn’t develop and is looking for work.

SEE ALSO

Young NBA star has some advice for RJ Barrett
Fizdale has been incommunicado since free agency began, saying in Las Vegas the team is “holding me hostage.’’

At the press conference introducing No. 3-overall pick RJ Barrett on June 21, Fizdale did not sit next to Mills and Perry. Instead the coach was stationed on the last seat at the end and was asked just one question.

“It goes back to Chicago [combine] when we met with RJ,’’ Fizdale said in his most recent public remarks. “It was eight in the morning the next morning and he shows up like this [in a suit and tie]. Ready. Just that alone lets you know that he’s the kind of kid we want in our culture.”

What sort of culture Fizdale has built is unclear. Sadly, Mills and Perry have gone dark, too. Of the seven new signees, six are guaranteed for just one season. The way it has worked out, the revolving door may continue.

All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.

Mudiay took development minutes from frank, not only did they not resign him, they bring another point guard who is sure to take even more minutes from him.

Can you imagine another 9 new guys here next offseason..smh

Our development of Vonleh, Marion, Mudiay, and trey, got them minnum contracts, and knox still looks suspect..oh, he's 19

Surprised you're suggesting more minutes for Frank. Frank's game was no secret at the time. Knox might have been historically bad pct wise, but he wasnt afraid to take the shot.

Both Knox and Mudiay should have shot less at times, but they werent timid about generating offense. Thats why Fizdale favored Mudiay. Mudiay gets tunnel vision (why he's gone) but he didnt make his teammates feel like it was 4 on 5 on offense. Saw times when Frank got frozen out because he wasnt doing anything with the ball.

Knicks not sharing much with the media is a long tradition. Until the Knicks start making playoff appearances again, dont believe Perry/Mills want anyone to talk too much. Cant say I blame them. As the article states, most of these recently signed vets could be gone in a year, some less. Hard to hype transitional players.

As far as Kornet, Mario, Vonleh, Mudiay. None of these guys were starter material. If any of them played that way, they might be still around. Hard for a player to look good on a team that is tanking anyway. On a more veteran team, when they are surrounded by more seasoned vets, they should play better. Maybe Frank as well. The players acquired over the summer are better than the ones going out. Mgmt wanted to upgrade the roster without affecting long term cap space. Thats what they did.

On building Culture, best way is to see how Barrett develops. Good things will flow from that. Fizdale cant play musical lineups this year, unless its injury related. That will make culture building tough. Players want to know where they fit on the team.

knicks1248 wrote:I stated all these facts since FA closed shop for us, and while some are Gun Ho about the flexibility Mills and perry has giving us (something the entire league has done)

The revolving door gets notice around the league from players/agents/

This is not ripping the knicks like ESPN, these are straight facts

In case you don’t recall, the Knicks entered July with nine free agents of their own.

Once the club got spurned early by Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, Knicks owner James Dolan’s crew had $74.8 million to throw around ($70 million in cap space plus the $4.8 million room exception).

It is telling that none of their nine free agents will be back as Knicks.

Not Noah Vonleh, though they entered the summer without a power forward on the roster. Not Mario Hezonja, whom general manager Scott Perry made the Knicks’ marquee free-agent signing last summer (the Magic had drafted Hezonja when Perry was assistant GM in Orlando).

Not point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, who finished the season as the Knicks’ leading scorer.

The Knicks weren’t outbid. The brass just didn’t want any of them back — with the exception of center DeAndre Jordan.

The Knicks sold player development, rather than their record, as the key element on which to judge last season. Yet not one of their nine free agents was considered worthy of another contract with the team.

That’s a stain on coach David Fizdale, who is off in Africa for Basketball Without Borders. Last summer, Fizdale was on a trip to Latvia to win over Kristaps Porzingis. The 7-foot-3 star, who was traded to Dallas in January, never played a single game for Fizdale, nor did he want to commit to playing for him in the future.

In July, the market for Knicks free agents wasn’t high after Fizdale’s Tank Machine finished a league-worst 17-65. Hezonja took the minimum contract from Portland. Mudiay, according to a source, signed a one-year minimum deal with Utah. Vonleh got a shade over the minimum with Minnesota.


New-age center Luke Kornet cashed in the most, signing a two-year, $4.5 million pact with Chicago. That prompted former Knicks president Phil Jackson to come out of hibernation and tell journalist Sam Smith: “We liked Luke out of college. He has a real touch.’’

So what gives? Knicks president Steve Mills said multiple times last preseason his hope was to have his free-agents-to-be perform so strikingly well, he would be forced to carve out cap space for them.

Despite Vonleh saying during his Timberwolves presser the Knicks “let me spread my wings and grow as a player,” the club instead lavished $15 million on Bobby Portis and $10 million on Taj Gibson for next season.

The only player the Knicks would have wanted back was Jordan, the veteran center acquired in the Porzingis deal who was hailed as a lure for Durant. Instead, Jordan served as an informant planted in Manhattan.

Jordan ultimately concluded Brooklyn was the place they should put down roots. So much for that culture Fizdale said he created amid the tank-fest.

“Not to knock the culture the Knicks are creating, but we like what Kenny’s doing and Sean’s been awesome and the organization, from top to bottom, has been great,” Jordan said over the weekend regarding Nets coach Kenny Atkinson and GM Sean Marks. “So you want to be a part of something like that, especially when you have a chance to play with other great players and build something.”

Mudiay took precious time away from Frank Ntilikina, who also could be gone soon as the Knicks decide whether to exercise his fourth-year rookie-contract option in October.

At his press conference in Utah, Mudiay said his confidant, former Knicks coach Larry Brown, recommended Utah coach Quin Snyder. Mudiay added Utah has a strong reputation for making its players better and he was drawn by never having been on a playoff squad as the Jazz were last season.

Lance Thomas, the Knicks’ long-tenured locker-room leader, still is unemployed after Fizdale last summer called him “a Swiss Army knife’’ whom he would get to rise in the Draymond Green mold.

–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

The 3-point specialist John Jenkins is still looking for a job. Former Pistons first-round pick Henry Ellenson jumped to the Nets. Former North Carolina forward Isaiah Hicks, a Knicks two-way G-Leaguer the past two seasons, didn’t develop and is looking for work.

SEE ALSO

Young NBA star has some advice for RJ Barrett
Fizdale has been incommunicado since free agency began, saying in Las Vegas the team is “holding me hostage.’’

At the press conference introducing No. 3-overall pick RJ Barrett on June 21, Fizdale did not sit next to Mills and Perry. Instead the coach was stationed on the last seat at the end and was asked just one question.

“It goes back to Chicago [combine] when we met with RJ,’’ Fizdale said in his most recent public remarks. “It was eight in the morning the next morning and he shows up like this [in a suit and tie]. Ready. Just that alone lets you know that he’s the kind of kid we want in our culture.”

What sort of culture Fizdale has built is unclear. Sadly, Mills and Perry have gone dark, too. Of the seven new signees, six are guaranteed for just one season. The way it has worked out, the revolving door may continue.

All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.

Mudiay took development minutes from frank, not only did they not resign him, they bring another point guard who is sure to take even more minutes from him.

Can you imagine another 9 new guys here next offseason..smh

Our development of Vonleh, Marion, Mudiay, and trey, got them minnum contracts, and knox still looks suspect..oh, he's 19

Cool. Another Berman article that you copy and don't share a link for. Just more of the same from this guy who obviously is just looking to sew discord. Does he pay you for the click bait?

It's nice to think that the Knicks should have brought all these guys back at league minimum but they had to spend over $98 Million to meet Salary Cap minimum requirement. I would have like to bring Vonleh back, the rest to me where just spare parts that could be had in any given year at the minimum. With a change in scenery, some may go on to find a strong niche in the league as they grow. Just the way it works in today's NBA.

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I stated all these facts since FA closed shop for us, and while some are Gun Ho about the flexibility Mills and perry has giving us (something the entire league has done)

The revolving door gets notice around the league from players/agents/

This is not ripping the knicks like ESPN, these are straight facts

In case you don’t recall, the Knicks entered July with nine free agents of their own.

Once the club got spurned early by Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, Knicks owner James Dolan’s crew had $74.8 million to throw around ($70 million in cap space plus the $4.8 million room exception).

It is telling that none of their nine free agents will be back as Knicks.

Not Noah Vonleh, though they entered the summer without a power forward on the roster. Not Mario Hezonja, whom general manager Scott Perry made the Knicks’ marquee free-agent signing last summer (the Magic had drafted Hezonja when Perry was assistant GM in Orlando).

Not point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, who finished the season as the Knicks’ leading scorer.

The Knicks weren’t outbid. The brass just didn’t want any of them back — with the exception of center DeAndre Jordan.

The Knicks sold player development, rather than their record, as the key element on which to judge last season. Yet not one of their nine free agents was considered worthy of another contract with the team.

That’s a stain on coach David Fizdale, who is off in Africa for Basketball Without Borders. Last summer, Fizdale was on a trip to Latvia to win over Kristaps Porzingis. The 7-foot-3 star, who was traded to Dallas in January, never played a single game for Fizdale, nor did he want to commit to playing for him in the future.

In July, the market for Knicks free agents wasn’t high after Fizdale’s Tank Machine finished a league-worst 17-65. Hezonja took the minimum contract from Portland. Mudiay, according to a source, signed a one-year minimum deal with Utah. Vonleh got a shade over the minimum with Minnesota.


New-age center Luke Kornet cashed in the most, signing a two-year, $4.5 million pact with Chicago. That prompted former Knicks president Phil Jackson to come out of hibernation and tell journalist Sam Smith: “We liked Luke out of college. He has a real touch.’’

So what gives? Knicks president Steve Mills said multiple times last preseason his hope was to have his free-agents-to-be perform so strikingly well, he would be forced to carve out cap space for them.

Despite Vonleh saying during his Timberwolves presser the Knicks “let me spread my wings and grow as a player,” the club instead lavished $15 million on Bobby Portis and $10 million on Taj Gibson for next season.

The only player the Knicks would have wanted back was Jordan, the veteran center acquired in the Porzingis deal who was hailed as a lure for Durant. Instead, Jordan served as an informant planted in Manhattan.

Jordan ultimately concluded Brooklyn was the place they should put down roots. So much for that culture Fizdale said he created amid the tank-fest.

“Not to knock the culture the Knicks are creating, but we like what Kenny’s doing and Sean’s been awesome and the organization, from top to bottom, has been great,” Jordan said over the weekend regarding Nets coach Kenny Atkinson and GM Sean Marks. “So you want to be a part of something like that, especially when you have a chance to play with other great players and build something.”

Mudiay took precious time away from Frank Ntilikina, who also could be gone soon as the Knicks decide whether to exercise his fourth-year rookie-contract option in October.

At his press conference in Utah, Mudiay said his confidant, former Knicks coach Larry Brown, recommended Utah coach Quin Snyder. Mudiay added Utah has a strong reputation for making its players better and he was drawn by never having been on a playoff squad as the Jazz were last season.

Lance Thomas, the Knicks’ long-tenured locker-room leader, still is unemployed after Fizdale last summer called him “a Swiss Army knife’’ whom he would get to rise in the Draymond Green mold.

–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

The 3-point specialist John Jenkins is still looking for a job. Former Pistons first-round pick Henry Ellenson jumped to the Nets. Former North Carolina forward Isaiah Hicks, a Knicks two-way G-Leaguer the past two seasons, didn’t develop and is looking for work.

SEE ALSO

Young NBA star has some advice for RJ Barrett
Fizdale has been incommunicado since free agency began, saying in Las Vegas the team is “holding me hostage.’’

At the press conference introducing No. 3-overall pick RJ Barrett on June 21, Fizdale did not sit next to Mills and Perry. Instead the coach was stationed on the last seat at the end and was asked just one question.

“It goes back to Chicago [combine] when we met with RJ,’’ Fizdale said in his most recent public remarks. “It was eight in the morning the next morning and he shows up like this [in a suit and tie]. Ready. Just that alone lets you know that he’s the kind of kid we want in our culture.”

What sort of culture Fizdale has built is unclear. Sadly, Mills and Perry have gone dark, too. Of the seven new signees, six are guaranteed for just one season. The way it has worked out, the revolving door may continue.

All six one-year signees could be saying “arrivederci” to the Knicks next July. And maybe Fizdale will be joining them.

Mudiay took development minutes from frank, not only did they not resign him, they bring another point guard who is sure to take even more minutes from him.

Can you imagine another 9 new guys here next offseason..smh

Our development of Vonleh, Marion, Mudiay, and trey, got them minnum contracts, and knox still looks suspect..oh, he's 19

Cool. Another Berman article that you copy and don't share a link for. Just more of the same from this guy who obviously is just looking to sew discord. Does he pay you for the click bait?

It's nice to think that the Knicks should have brought all these guys back at league minimum but they had to spend over $98 Million to meet Salary Cap minimum requirement. I would have like to bring Vonleh back, the rest to me where just spare parts that could be had in any given year at the minimum. With a change in scenery, some may go on to find a strong niche in the league as they grow. Just the way it works in today's NBA.

you can find 20 other articles that say the same thing, and like the link is on the home page, everyone knows that.

Im not a berman fan at all, but How can I argue that facts

NYKBocker wrote:Article is stupid. It was a tanking developmental season. You have 15 players, after the season ends then you pick your core that you will continue to develop. They chose M Robinson, Trier, Dotson, DSJr, Knox and Frank. That is 6 players. Robinson progression has been astounding. You see him getting better every game. Trier is a gift from the basketball gods. A free pick. Dotson has shown glimpses. DSJr, Knox and Frank are all on the same boat. It's a make it or break it year this year for them. They should be talking about that. I mean of the players that was released or not re-signed, Kornet was the only one I wanted back. We have very good signings. I wanted KD and another signing and if that didn't happen then we go 3rd tier star and a bunch of short term contracts. They did that. That's the new culture. Mindful of the future and build from within.

Every article that criticize the knicks is stupid..ppl just dont understand...ookay
Everyone is conspired to paint the knicks in a bad way, the media, free agents, other GM's, players.

the point is that we can have an entire new roster next yr and they yr after that, there is very few positives in 20+ win season and no FO will be pressed to keep a 20+ win roster in place...

Fiz going to have to coach his ass off the season

The article is an underlying Fizdale diss, which i like to see. Get that clown off the bench.

knicks1248 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Article is stupid. It was a tanking developmental season. You have 15 players, after the season ends then you pick your core that you will continue to develop. They chose M Robinson, Trier, Dotson, DSJr, Knox and Frank. That is 6 players. Robinson progression has been astounding. You see him getting better every game. Trier is a gift from the basketball gods. A free pick. Dotson has shown glimpses. DSJr, Knox and Frank are all on the same boat. It's a make it or break it year this year for them. They should be talking about that. I mean of the players that was released or not re-signed, Kornet was the only one I wanted back. We have very good signings. I wanted KD and another signing and if that didn't happen then we go 3rd tier star and a bunch of short term contracts. They did that. That's the new culture. Mindful of the future and build from within.

Every article that criticize the knicks is stupid..ppl just dont understand...ookay
Everyone is conspired to paint the knicks in a bad way, the media, free agents, other GM's, players.

the point is that we can have an entire new roster next yr and they yr after that, there is very few positives in 20+ win season and no FO will be pressed to keep a 20+ win roster in place...

Fiz going to have to coach his ass off the season

anrst wrote:is Portis that much better than Vonleh? at anythign?

The article is an underlying Fizdale diss, which i like to see. Get that clown off the bench.

He's definitely a better offensive player. We also pretty much replaced Thomas and Vonleh with Randle. There is no argument there. Randle is superior to both.

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Article is stupid. It was a tanking developmental season. You have 15 players, after the season ends then you pick your core that you will continue to develop. They chose M Robinson, Trier, Dotson, DSJr, Knox and Frank. That is 6 players. Robinson progression has been astounding. You see him getting better every game. Trier is a gift from the basketball gods. A free pick. Dotson has shown glimpses. DSJr, Knox and Frank are all on the same boat. It's a make it or break it year this year for them. They should be talking about that. I mean of the players that was released or not re-signed, Kornet was the only one I wanted back. We have very good signings. I wanted KD and another signing and if that didn't happen then we go 3rd tier star and a bunch of short term contracts. They did that. That's the new culture. Mindful of the future and build from within.

Every article that criticize the knicks is stupid..ppl just dont understand...ookay
Everyone is conspired to paint the knicks in a bad way, the media, free agents, other GM's, players.

the point is that we can have an entire new roster next yr and they yr after that, there is very few positives in 20+ win season and no FO will be pressed to keep a 20+ win roster in place...

Fiz going to have to coach his ass off the season

It's stupid because it didn't paint the whole picture. You want your article to be viewed as valid then touch on everything. Cherry picking to advance your agenda is just plain stupid.

You want a puff piece to satisfied you, you have the home bloggers for that.

Espn, Berman, Bondy, Bleecher report, real GM, fox sports, NYT, ect.

If you google knicks and put any media outlet next to it, you will find very similar articles if not worse..

when you start thinking everyone is wrong but you, that's what you called being pretty damn cynical.
Im praying the knicks can turn it around with this group of rentals, but no one really sees it happening, not even most die hards.

I don't want puff or agenda driven pieces. I want real, fact driven articles. A lot of those sources you pointed out aren't in the business of doing. That Berman piece you posted has so many holes in it that stands to stay afloat in the space we call reality. I'm not saying he doesn't make any truthful points. But I will accuse him of willfully neglecting to highlight the entire picture.

Absolutely

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2847091-knicks-mess-rozier-to-hornets-barnes-to-kings-and-nba-offseasons-worst-moves#slide5

If the New York Knicks turn around and flip short-term signees Bobby Portis, Taj Gibson, Marcus Morris, Elfrid Payton, Wayne Ellington and Reggie Bullock for draft assets a few months from now, no harm done.

But if they can't extract value from the bevy of deals they signed this summer, the Knicks will have compounded one crippling disappointment (the failure to even sniff max-level free agents) with another. There were first-rounders to be had this summer, and New York got none of them.

The Memphis Grizzlies hauled one in from the desperate Golden State Warriors, who had to attach a first-rounder to move Andre Iguodala and get under the hard cap. The Brooklyn Nets sent two firsts to the Atlanta Hawks in an Allen Crabbe salary dump. The multi-team swap that sent Jimmy Butler to the Miami Heat also redirected Moe Harkless and a first-rounder to the Los Angeles Clippers.

Where were the Knicks when all this was going down? Why the rush to dump eight-figure annual salaries on middling free agents when that money could have been used to take in similarly impactful vets on short deals with assets attached?

There was just so much more to be had if only the Knicks had been patient.

By avoiding longer-term panic signings, New York didn't do maximum damage to its future. But the Knicks absolutely could have utilized all that cap space to greater effect.