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Allanfan20
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6/19/2019  9:35 PM
... is that Mitch Robinson is ready to be a full fledged starter. Yes he has shown a lot of flashes but he was still inconsistent and had trouble staying on the floor. This guy needs time to develop. He’s no where close to being a finished product.
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6/19/2019  9:41 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are planning on re-signing Deandre Jordan, or if not, then using a mid-level exception to bring in another veteran center to start and mentor Robinson. So I don't think the plan is for Mitchell to start this season
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6/19/2019  9:52 PM
I don't see M.Robinson ever being a full time starter in the NBA. Not saying we should get rid of him but we shouldn't expect big things from him.
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6/19/2019  10:15 PM
Mitchell Robinson is a unicorn defensively and expect him to start and be on the all-nba defensive team; while also dunking lobs all day.
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6/19/2019  11:30 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:I don't see M.Robinson ever being a full time starter in the NBA. Not saying we should get rid of him but we shouldn't expect big things from him.

he's the perfect big for the modern game. he offers rim protection, and could run the floor and finish on the offensive end. he still has to develop and mature physically, but i don't see how you could say he's not an eventual full time starter.
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6/20/2019  12:09 AM
We are not competing in upcoming season so why not to start him?
He has talent and physical tools. Need experience and practice.
So he should play all minutes he can based on foul trouble and stamina.
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6/20/2019  12:17 AM
Mitch shows a reliable jumper, he's a legit starter. Dont believe there is any more to it than that.
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6/20/2019  5:50 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Mitch shows a reliable jumper, he's a legit starter. Dont believe there is any more to it than that.

If/when he shows a reliable jumper he will not only be a legit starter, he would be in the all-star conversation

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6/20/2019  6:00 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Mitch shows a reliable jumper, he's a legit starter. Dont believe there is any more to it than that.

If/when he shows a reliable jumper he will not only be a legit starter, he would be in the all-star conversation

He can have a Dirk-like jumper but if he can’t stay on the court when he starts then none of what you say matters. Yes, he has rebounding, shotblocking and cutting to the basket down. Man to man defense and off the ball defense and staying out of foul trouble are what will keep him on the court though.

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knicks180nyc wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:I don't see M.Robinson ever being a full time starter in the NBA. Not saying we should get rid of him but we shouldn't expect big things from him.

he's the perfect big for the modern game. he offers rim protection, and could run the floor and finish on the offensive end. he still has to develop and mature physically, but i don't see how you could say he's not an eventual full time starter.

The modern game requires todays center to be able to, consistently, have a reliable outside jump shot. Robinson isn't there and who knows if he ever will be. As a matter of fact, I don't recall to many post moves either...Defensively, he is definitely on his way but until I see some sort of improvement on the other side of the ball, I will stick to my comment.
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6/20/2019  7:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2019  9:26 AM
I totally disagree. Whether luck or foresight FO nailed this pick

At worst he will be like Capella. Any I expect that this season. He finished last season much more in control than he began. I agree w others he needs a good veteran presence or at least coach. If we’re redshirting KD d.jordan on a 1 year deal may make sense

If he develops a respectable jumper and first step holy cow. Guys head is 10 feet in the air on some of his dunks

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6/20/2019  8:08 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:... is that Mitch Robinson is ready to be a full fledged starter. Yes he has shown a lot of flashes but he was still inconsistent and had trouble staying on the floor. This guy needs time to develop. He’s no where close to being a finished product.

I agree. I think Jordan should be brought back and maybe Vonleh too. I like Kornet as well.

Mitch needs to develop some type of 10-15 ft shot and get better in PnR situations. His rim D is great but he is still weak and needs more strength (uuper and lower).
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6/20/2019  8:13 AM
My assumption was Jordan was back and eventually Mitch starts. The future is his. When that is is over assumed.
My assumption was never we contend this upcoming season even with Kyrie and Durant. Unless we traded some yoot.
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6/20/2019  8:48 AM
Interesting thread. I believe that he's not "ready" and his minutes will be dictated by his fouls, meaning he will likely play 35 mins 1 night and 20 mins another, but he's no doubt a future starter in the league and easy to project as a rim-protecting big. Best case for him is developing into a Gobert-type presence. Worst case is a lesser version of Capela. He will look incredible alongside the playmaking ability of Barrett or Morant. We will need to put shooters around our core group though, in order to maximize a guy like Robinson as a pick and roll man. He could be a 15 and 10 guy while leading the league in block shots for a long time.
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6/20/2019  9:54 AM
Chandler wrote:I totally disagree. Whether luck or foresight FO nailed this pick

At worst he will be like Capella. Any I expect that this season. He finished last season much more in control than he began. I agree w others he needs a good veteran presence or at least coach. If we’re redshirting KD d.jordan on a 1 year deal may make sense

If he develops a respectable jumper and first step holy cow. Guys head is 10 feet in the air on some of his dunks

I agree. He's certainly not a finished product and has tons to learn. He is most certainly penciled in as a core starter/rotation player for the next decade unless he gets hurt. He's a defensive unicorn who can literally guard anyone anywhere. There is tons of **** he's going to improve on, much of it basic fundamentals like boxing out and setting better pics.
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6/20/2019  9:59 AM
Mitch was really a steal a first round talent that only fell because he didnt play a year. The Lakers were gonna take him at 25 and regretted not doing it. He is not even close to a finished product but has already shown so many traits that are very valuable to us as we go forward
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6/20/2019  10:06 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks180nyc wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:I don't see M.Robinson ever being a full time starter in the NBA. Not saying we should get rid of him but we shouldn't expect big things from him.

he's the perfect big for the modern game. he offers rim protection, and could run the floor and finish on the offensive end. he still has to develop and mature physically, but i don't see how you could say he's not an eventual full time starter.

The modern game requires todays center to be able to, consistently, have a reliable outside jump shot. Robinson isn't there and who knows if he ever will be. As a matter of fact, I don't recall to many post moves either...Defensively, he is definitely on his way but until I see some sort of improvement on the other side of the ball, I will stick to my comment.


Really?
Clint Cappella 53 wins
Rudy Gobert 50 wins
Steve Adams 49 wins
Andre Drummond 41 wins
Nurkic/Kanter 53 wins

These guys might beg to differ. You stick with your comment. Im great moving forward building with Robinson and his DPOY potential. He could be our Ben Wallace. Will he? Who knows... but the potential is there. You keep developing him and keep bringing in talent. Nobody is handing Robinson anything. What he showed screams starting center for a decade in this modern up and down game where protecting the rim against the army of slashing guards you will see every night is as key a skill as ANY.

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6/20/2019  10:11 AM
Knixkik wrote:Interesting thread. I believe that he's not "ready" and his minutes will be dictated by his fouls, meaning he will likely play 35 mins 1 night and 20 mins another, but he's no doubt a future starter in the league and easy to project as a rim-protecting big. Best case for him is developing into a Gobert-type presence. Worst case is a lesser version of Capela. He will look incredible alongside the playmaking ability of Barrett or Morant. We will need to put shooters around our core group though, in order to maximize a guy like Robinson as a pick and roll man. He could be a 15 and 10 guy while leading the league in block shots for a long time.
yea I just dont see how anyone who watches this league cant agree with the above. He's got more lumps to take.

Robinson's stats are almost identical to Capella's 2nd season except Mitch had double the blocks. Robinson is longer and a better athlete than Capella as well. 100% agree with your post and dont think its opinion. Its observation.

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6/20/2019  10:13 AM
Mitch Robinson, I view as a Marvin Webster type, a second unit guy that can provide great defense and Energy. Those were some of my best Knick memories, Cartwright as a first unit center, Marvin Webster as a #2. The #2 Unit often outplayed the starters. That is his floor, I believe he has potential to surpass that too...but it is not my expectation.
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6/20/2019  10:24 AM
RSparrow2 wrote:Mitch Robinson, I view as a Marvin Webster type, a second unit guy that can provide great defense and Energy. Those were some of my best Knick memories, Cartwright as a first unit center, Marvin Webster as a #2. The #2 Unit often outplayed the starters. That is his floor, I believe he has potential to surpass that too...but it is not my expectation.
Bro... nobody knows who Marvin Webster is! That is digging deep!
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