Ohhh what if we get KD and KYRIE!

The trade returned HOPE more than assets.

Now HOPE is gone.

What is left? Good question.

Using our cap space for future draft picks? That's never been how the Knicks operate. That's not going to work for salespeople in the garden.

Sambakick wrote:It was a trade that always required Knicks fans to be patient and use their imaginations.....

Ohhh what if we get KD and KYRIE!

The trade returned HOPE more than assets.

Now HOPE is gone.

What is left? Good question.

Using our cap space for future draft picks? That's never been how the Knicks operate. That's not going to work for salespeople in the garden.

That trade gave us the tools we need to trade for a disgruntled star. I actually think we have the best shot at Anthony Davis now who has always been a better play to KP.

NardDogNation wrote:

Sambakick wrote:It was a trade that always required Knicks fans to be patient and use their imaginations.....

Ohhh what if we get KD and KYRIE!

The trade returned HOPE more than assets.

Now HOPE is gone.

What is left? Good question.

Using our cap space for future draft picks? That's never been how the Knicks operate. That's not going to work for salespeople in the garden.

That trade gave us the tools we need to trade for a disgruntled star. I actually think we have the best shot at Anthony Davis now who has always been a better play to KP.

All-in for AD. Shades of Amare/Carmelo team construction. AD is better than either of them were. But we waste a year of AD, or do a panic deal at the deadline for his Carmelo. Same old situation.

SupremeCommander wrote:yes. KP and his brother demanded a trade and we got the best yield we could without the story blowing up. and if we had waited until then what type of offers are we looking at? He didn't want to be here, get over it, move on

Then why did he said after the trade that he was surprised? We still haven't heard KP version of what happened

Sambakick wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Sambakick wrote:It was a trade that always required Knicks fans to be patient and use their imaginations.....

Ohhh what if we get KD and KYRIE!

The trade returned HOPE more than assets.

Now HOPE is gone.

What is left? Good question.

Using our cap space for future draft picks? That's never been how the Knicks operate. That's not going to work for salespeople in the garden.

That trade gave us the tools we need to trade for a disgruntled star. I actually think we have the best shot at Anthony Davis now who has always been a better play to KP.

All-in for AD. Shades of Amare/Carmelo team construction. AD is better than either of them were. But we waste a year of AD, or do a panic deal at the deadline for his Carmelo. Same old situation.

Not even close to the same situation. The difference here is that we'd have $70-$80 million to build a team with. That's about 70% of most teams' payroll. If you can't put a winner around a guy as talented as AD with that type of money at your disposal, you're not good enough to be a NBA executive.

SupremeCommander wrote:yes. KP and his brother demanded a trade and we got the best yield we could without the story blowing up. and if we had waited until then what type of offers are we looking at? He didn't want to be here, get over it, move on

+1000...He didn't want to be here! Plus, we now have assets and ample cap space!

MS wrote:Think about it for a moment. The fight the allegations, his brother, I know he was a little bit of a diva. But, where are we now?

In the span of one game, the entire Knicks future evaporated. No one is going to sacrifice a year to play for the Knicks, especially while KD rehabs his injury. That's arguably one of the worst achilles tears I have ever seen and who knows when he comes back. It's a year and half timetable at minimum.

The return we got was minimal, DSJR looks lost, the picks are tradeable yes, valuable maybe, but THJR was easily flipped for Matthews and Lee could have been moved with Frank this summer if and when we had assurances that a free agent would sign.

Kyrie is going to choose Brooklyn? If we fall to get Kawhi this summer, NY doesn't appear on the NBA landscape for the forseeable future.

It just seems the hope and a prayer that we opened up cap space for will be another pipe dream. I would be feeling a whole lot better with Barrett, Knox, KP, Mitch coming into the season. He wasn't going to Europe this season and you could have traded him for more midseason.

I know I am probably in the minority, but hard to be positive with the way things are shaping up.

Don't agree with the bolded statement. Dallas only took THJ time get KP. No way they trade Wesley's expiring deal for THJ. Also, Lee just wasn't as valuable as many of us thought. I thought he would be easily movable. But we've been trying to move him for 2 seasons now. I don't think teanlms were willing to help us out unless we add a protected first as a sweetner. Look what the Nets had to add to get rid of Crabbe.
I'm good with the deal. Even with, our cap space would've limited how much we could do to bolster our youth movement. Also, off the court drama aside, how many of us were confident in KP's ability to shoulder the burden of carrying us over the course of an 82 game season. Maxing out KP was almost as big of a gamble as trading him.

In a vacuum I would most certainly NOT do that trade. I would love to have a frontline of KP/Mitch, you have Timmy/Dotson/Frank/Trier/Knox/Kornet, you have a top 3 pick you can draft a stud and you have cap space we would likely overspend for PG help... maybe Rubio, hopefully Kemba or Kyrie.

All that is mental masturbation at this point. KP forced a trade so the only question is if the Knicks made the best trade.

I am pretty happy with how they are set up. They need to execute now so time will tell