Let's say the knicks deal Barrett, Knox, Robinson, Smith, Ntilikina, and the 2 dallas picks on draft night for AD.
They would still have approx. 28 mil in cap space after signing AD and guaranteeing Trier and Dotson. 28 mil in space can probably bring you back D Jordan plus a PG like Rubio or Beverley, or a wing like Ariza or D Green. Basically 2 of those players. And i'm sure we could squeeze in a vet reserve like Quinn Cook or Sefolosha. Then use the taxpayers MLE to bring back Vonleh. I think it's a better way to build than have 3 all-stars and trying to fill the team with vets willing to pay for the minimum. That's only if we decide to go all-in.

I don't think AD is neessary. ITs a guard league now.

AD and KD or AD and Kawhi?

smackeddog wrote:I don't think we're going roland anyone, but just out of interest what's the better pairing:

AD and KD or AD and Kawhi?

The answer is.... KD and Kawhi :)

David Griffin, New Orleans' executive vice president of basketball operations, has started to provide potential suitors with the framework of the package he is seeking in a trade for All-NBA forward Anthony Davis, including multiteam scenarios that would expand the Pelicans' pool of assets in a deal, league sources told ESPN.

So far, Los Angeles and New York teams --- the Clippers and Lakers, Knicks and Nets -- have been among front offices inquiring with New Orleans, league sources said.

The Boston Celtics have long considered a run at Davis, but they must take into consideration the future of free agent Kyrie Irving before committing to a significant offer of assets to New Orleans.

The success of the Kawhi Leonard rental in Toronto has also seemed to embolden factions of Davis' nonpreferred and smaller-market destinations to probe New Orleans on trades, league sources said.

According to front offices who've engaged in conversations with Griffin, he hasn't sounded convinced that one team is likely to fulfill his wishes for a Davis deal. To that end, Griffin has been working to find multiteam trade scenarios that could redirect assets for players or picks more preferable to the Pelicans, sources said.

For example, those sorts of scenarios could include the Lakers helping to find a team that hypothetically values Los Angeles' young players more than New Orleans does, or New York could flip its two first future first-round picks via Dallas into players the Pelicans prefer. New Orleans seems determined to be creative in constructing a deal to maximize the return on Davis, one of the NBA's elite talents.

Griffin has offered teams no firm timetable on needing a completed deal, but he has indicated that he prefers the acquisition of 2019 draft picks be completed days prior to the June 20 event in Brooklyn, league sources said. This gives the Pelicans a chance to meet and more closely examine draft candidates slotted in the vicinity of picks potentially traded to New Orleans.

The Knicks and Lakers hold the Nos. 3 and 4 picks in this month's draft, respectively, and those are prime trade assets for the Pelicans to consider.

Griffin is pursuing a combination of assets that include an All-Star player, a young player with All-Star potential and two first-round picks, league sources said. Those wants are on a sliding scale. For example, the better the player, the softer the requests on the draft picks -- and vice versa.

That's certainly a starting place in trade talks, but there remains uncertainty on how many assets teams will be willing to move for Davis, who could leave as a free agent next July.
In whatever deal the Pelicans make, Griffin wants the assets to continue building a Western Conference playoff team around guard Jrue Holiday and the projected No. 1 overall pick, forward Zion Williamson, sources said.

For now, a Davis trade looms as a premium free-agent recruiting tool for those big-market teams engaged with New Orleans. For example, Brooklyn and New York are pursuing Davis to partner with the likes of a Kevin Durant or Irving once free agency commences on June 30.

Davis, 26, requested a trade in January -- with the Lakers as a primary destination -- but negotiations never gained traction. Those talks were led by New Orleans GM Dell Demps and Lakers president Magic Johnson -- both of whom are no longer employed in those positions.

The Pelicans hired Griffin in April, and he immediately embarked on a campaign to convince Davis to reconsider his desire to leave the franchise. Davis is eligible to sign a five-year, $235.5 million supermax contract starting in July.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26941750/pelicans-open-multiteam-davis-deal

He can get stuffed- we're supposed to do his job for him?! I'd say this makes the Lakers more likely (that whole bit about finding other teams to change players into more valuable players to the Pelicans (They don't like Lonzo). Also wouldn't count out the Nets- remember one of the Pelicans new front office staff just came over from the Nets.

I think ultimately it will be Lakers send no 4 pick, trade Lonzo to either the Bulls or Suns for their first rounder and send that to the Pels, Ingram and whatever plus 2 future firsts

If the pels are really desperate for RJ (which I don't think they are), they could always then flip those two firsts for ours.

I do think the Lakers landing such a high pick has saved them, and I think the interest the Bulls and Suns have in Lonzo is also a huge factor in their favor. Guess they just got lucky again...

smackeddog wrote:Griffin has let teams know he wants the moon on a stick:

David Griffin, New Orleans' executive vice president of basketball operations, has started to provide potential suitors with the framework of the package he is seeking in a trade for All-NBA forward Anthony Davis, including multiteam scenarios that would expand the Pelicans' pool of assets in a deal, league sources told ESPN.

So far, Los Angeles and New York teams --- the Clippers and Lakers, Knicks and Nets -- have been among front offices inquiring with New Orleans, league sources said.

The Boston Celtics have long considered a run at Davis, but they must take into consideration the future of free agent Kyrie Irving before committing to a significant offer of assets to New Orleans.

The success of the Kawhi Leonard rental in Toronto has also seemed to embolden factions of Davis' nonpreferred and smaller-market destinations to probe New Orleans on trades, league sources said.

According to front offices who've engaged in conversations with Griffin, he hasn't sounded convinced that one team is likely to fulfill his wishes for a Davis deal. To that end, Griffin has been working to find multiteam trade scenarios that could redirect assets for players or picks more preferable to the Pelicans, sources said.

For example, those sorts of scenarios could include the Lakers helping to find a team that hypothetically values Los Angeles' young players more than New Orleans does, or New York could flip its two first future first-round picks via Dallas into players the Pelicans prefer. New Orleans seems determined to be creative in constructing a deal to maximize the return on Davis, one of the NBA's elite talents.

Griffin has offered teams no firm timetable on needing a completed deal, but he has indicated that he prefers the acquisition of 2019 draft picks be completed days prior to the June 20 event in Brooklyn, league sources said. This gives the Pelicans a chance to meet and more closely examine draft candidates slotted in the vicinity of picks potentially traded to New Orleans.

The Knicks and Lakers hold the Nos. 3 and 4 picks in this month's draft, respectively, and those are prime trade assets for the Pelicans to consider.

Griffin is pursuing a combination of assets that include an All-Star player, a young player with All-Star potential and two first-round picks, league sources said. Those wants are on a sliding scale. For example, the better the player, the softer the requests on the draft picks -- and vice versa.

That's certainly a starting place in trade talks, but there remains uncertainty on how many assets teams will be willing to move for Davis, who could leave as a free agent next July.
In whatever deal the Pelicans make, Griffin wants the assets to continue building a Western Conference playoff team around guard Jrue Holiday and the projected No. 1 overall pick, forward Zion Williamson, sources said.

For now, a Davis trade looms as a premium free-agent recruiting tool for those big-market teams engaged with New Orleans. For example, Brooklyn and New York are pursuing Davis to partner with the likes of a Kevin Durant or Irving once free agency commences on June 30.

Davis, 26, requested a trade in January -- with the Lakers as a primary destination -- but negotiations never gained traction. Those talks were led by New Orleans GM Dell Demps and Lakers president Magic Johnson -- both of whom are no longer employed in those positions.

The Pelicans hired Griffin in April, and he immediately embarked on a campaign to convince Davis to reconsider his desire to leave the franchise. Davis is eligible to sign a five-year, $235.5 million supermax contract starting in July.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26941750/pelicans-open-multiteam-davis-deal

He can get stuffed- we're supposed to do his job for him?! I'd say this makes the Lakers more likely (that whole bit about finding other teams to change players into more valuable players to the Pelicans (They don't like Lonzo). Also wouldn't count out the Nets- remember one of the Pelicans new front office staff just came over from the Nets.

I think ultimately it will be Lakers send no 4 pick, trade Lonzo to either the Bulls or Suns for their first rounder and send that to the Pels, Ingram and whatever plus 2 future firsts

If the pels are really desperate for RJ (which I don't think they are), they could always then flip those two firsts for ours.

I do think the Lakers landing such a high pick has saved them, and I think the interest the Bulls and Suns have in Lonzo is also a huge factor in their favor. Guess they just got lucky again...

This is similar to what he got for Kyrie..

But what team has a all star on it other than the suns in Booker, the Bulls, Nets, Knicks have none, maybe the celtics give up haywood and tatum, along with some picks, but that would leave AD alone in Beantown, and a serious risk of him leaving via FA next season, leaving boston with Brown, no picks and rozier..Don't think Ainge is that foolish..

If KD, Kyrie and Kawhi leave, that puts fear in other GM's of risking trades for guys in the final yr

A deal of #3 pick (Barrett), both Dallas picks, Dennis Smith Jr and either Ntlinkina or maybe we take on a bad contract.
Being that AD is on the last year of his contract, it is a fair deal.

Pelicans would be able to roll out an exciting starting 5 (which will help them sell tickets in addition to winning games.

Pg: DSJr
Sg: Holiday
Sf: Barrett
Pf: Zion
C: Randle

Plus they have those Dallas picks.

With AD without including any potential free agents we can roll out

Pg: Frank or Kadeem Allen
Sg: Dotson
Sf: Knox
Pf: AD
C: Mitch

AD & Mitch together would dominate.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:If they trade for AD, being under the cap, do they need equal salaries back?

I don't think AD is neessary. ITs a guard league now.

This guy gets it. Trading for AD will be a disaster

smackeddog wrote:Guess KD's injury puts us out of the AD sweepstakes, so likely he ends up a Laker