knicks180nyc wrote:it's a nice plan in theory, but i doubt those guys would want to be here just to mentor young players. also what happens if the knicks win 31 games and end up with the 10th or 11th pick? if they don't sign anybody i rather they just play the young guys for a whole season and possibly end up with a top 5 pick again.

not so sure this franchise could sustain a repeat of last year. that was supposed to be a one-time deal (and a good one i thought) in response to kp being out for a year and us taking a run at zion. at worst we were looking at a return of kp with a year and a half of rehabbing/training, a very high draft pick, a max FA slot, timmy and youth with a year of development under them. i don't think there's going to be the same level of understanding and support for now going back to another year like last year, especially when we have $74M earmarked to do something about it.

Marv wrote:

knicks180nyc wrote:it's a nice plan in theory, but i doubt those guys would want to be here just to mentor young players. also what happens if the knicks win 31 games and end up with the 10th or 11th pick? if they don't sign anybody i rather they just play the young guys for a whole season and possibly end up with a top 5 pick again.

not so sure this franchise could sustain a repeat of last year. that was supposed to be a one-time deal (and a good one i thought) in response to kp being out for a year and us taking a run at zion. at worst we were looking at a return of kp with a year and a half of rehabbing/training, a very high draft pick, a max FA slot, timmy and youth with a year of development under them. i don't think there's going to be the same level of understanding and support for now going back to another year like last year, especially when we have $74M earmarked to do something about it.

Exactly

I like Reddish and his potential but not sure at what price I want to pay for that pick or where he gets drafted.
Mudiay really showed a lot of improvement last year. Is there still an upside to him further? He surprised a lot of people. Why? He did things we have not seen before. Amazing concept! Players not replicating previous season!!
Frank as a Bruce Bowen type? Defense hustle, good decisions, moves the ball but he has to have an NBA shot. He has yet to show this.
Whats next? He grew to 6-8 and his wing span is 8 foot? My expectation is he gets traded on draft night. I don't know his value.

Nalod wrote:The prevailing rumor mill is if we sign two max FA's we don't have money for Trier and Dotson. If we need to go the yoot route the resulting decider is has this FO, who given up on Frank or has some other team made a compelling offer.

I like Reddish and his potential but not sure at what price I want to pay for that pick or where he gets drafted.
Mudiay really showed a lot of improvement last year. Is there still an upside to him further? He surprised a lot of people. Why? He did things we have not seen before. Amazing concept! Players not replicating previous season!!
Frank as a Bruce Bowen type? Defense hustle, good decisions, moves the ball but he has to have an NBA shot. He has yet to show this.
Whats next? He grew to 6-8 and his wing span is 8 foot? My expectation is he gets traded on draft night. I don't know his value.

Not correct. Because we didn't get the #1 pick DOT fits under the salary cap and there is a way to fit Trier based on his restriction (give or take... could be why Knicks are looking to move Frank though).

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Marv wrote:it’s a waste of unprecedented cap space. right now is the time to afford 2 stars while retaining all our youth now and going forward. don’t blow it on all these 2nd and 3rd raters.

It's called the backup plan if we don't get the top guys to sign with us this offseason which there's a very good chance of that happening. We have to spend a certain amount of our cap which i think is around the $60 mil mark so the best thing to do is exactly what the OP said which is use the money on one year deals and keep building through the draft.

it's a poor backup plan because you don't GAIN anything. If you completely strike out, you absorb some contracts with first rounders attached - this would be a minimum type plan C.

Reddick, Green, Beverly types are not coming when they can get similar'ish type deals on playoff teams or their current teams. You don't go out and find 5 vets who all want playing time and also announce that you are going to grow the young kids.

right... if we whiff we should whiff fast. At that point if we do whiff we become helpers. Take on a player like Crabbe or Gallo for Bkn/LAC using our cap space and we get a pick back.

Agree with Marv, if we whiff dont sign middle tier guys. Get growable assets back