Attachment is that which gives you pain. Love is that without which you cannot live. If love becomes attachment, then the same love which was giving you joy, starts to inflict pain. Attachment is when you want something in return. If you love and don't want anything in return, then that love doesn't turn into attachment.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

It is clear KP wanted to go and it is clear he selected Dallas.
What choice the FO had for a trade but the team KP penciled?
If there is some fault it is in how KP and Knicks relationship transpired over long time.
And there are many parties who acted to lead to the trade.
Inevitable events cannot be stopped.
You just acknowledge them and move on.

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

They went to other teams who either werent interested or not willing to give up much

I believe the situation is that Mav intended to give what Mills wanted most, the caps. He needed the cap now and quick to keep his job. a lot more picks in future would not help him. (but would help Knicks)

The only chance he could turn around quick is FA. He bought out Noah, let Kanter and Quinn walk away. It is all about caps.

Chandler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

martin wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

It is clear KP wanted to go and it is clear he selected Dallas.
What choice the FO had for a trade but the team KP penciled?
If there is some fault it is in how KP and Knicks relationship transpired over long time.
And there are many parties who acted to lead to the trade.
Inevitable events cannot be stopped.
You just acknowledge them and move on.

Again I am not going to **** on people, as everyone is sad. But, how could it be the best deal? Lakers? Boston? I can think of a lot of teams they really wanted KP and were willing to trade.

At the end, I really hope people would finally realize these two guys are always here (almost).

Mills, and Dolan.

It is not Donnie Walsh, not Isiah Thomas, not Glen Grunwald, not Phil Jackson.

It is always Mills and Dolan.

Name them, put out your details. Boston is absolutely not trading for KP until he returned from injury and proved healthy, see Gordon Hayward. They are also in a playoff hunt and need to resign Kyrie, they ain't busting up that team to save a space for KP next year.

Lakers? Almost in the same spot; LeBron and team are in a playoff hunt and wouldn't risk trading for KP (who they then would want to re-route to New Orleans? who also just shot down a KP trade?).

Knicks probably wanted to send KP to the West. And wanted to get rid of Lee/THJr at the least, so lots of expiring contracts and picks needed to make sure $40M in cap space.

Go for it, put out some scenarios.

Agreed Martin. There have been some that claim its a terrible return yet they dont offer a better or realistic return

they should have told him to pipe down, we're not trading you. Then they should have showed him how good they are at drafting, developing players and culture, and he would have been happy as a claim

the problem was he saw through them, and they knew they saw through him and they couldn't deliver on the above promise

So the rebuild is not premised on marrying 30 year old superstars with players under the drinking age.

ESOMKnicks wrote:Players, coaches, owners come and go. The team, its logo and its history stay. Living through a team's adversity is part of being a fan. You relish in your team's success that much more after having lived through its times of failure. It has been a long dark polar winter night which now will last for a while longer, but it is darkest right before dawn, and the sun will always inevitably rise.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

martin wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

It is clear KP wanted to go and it is clear he selected Dallas.
What choice the FO had for a trade but the team KP penciled?
If there is some fault it is in how KP and Knicks relationship transpired over long time.
And there are many parties who acted to lead to the trade.
Inevitable events cannot be stopped.
You just acknowledge them and move on.

Again I am not going to **** on people, as everyone is sad. But, how could it be the best deal? Lakers? Boston? I can think of a lot of teams they really wanted KP and were willing to trade.

At the end, I really hope people would finally realize these two guys are always here (almost).

Mills, and Dolan.

It is not Donnie Walsh, not Isiah Thomas, not Glen Grunwald, not Phil Jackson.

It is always Mills and Dolan.

Name them, put out your details. Boston is absolutely not trading for KP until he returned from injury and proved healthy, see Gordon Hayward. They are also in a playoff hunt and need to resign Kyrie, they ain't busting up that team to save a space for KP next year.

Lakers? Almost in the same spot; LeBron and team are in a playoff hunt and wouldn't risk trading for KP (who they then would want to re-route to New Orleans? who also just shot down a KP trade?).

Knicks probably wanted to send KP to the West. And wanted to get rid of Lee/THJr at the least, so lots of expiring contracts and picks needed to make sure $40M in cap space.

Go for it, put out some scenarios.

Agreed Martin. There have been some that claim its a terrible return yet they dont offer a better or realistic return

We could have stood pat and traded him in the summer to Boston. They would get their start to replace Kyrie. Sorry I just don't get all the trade rules.

meloshouldgo wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

martin wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:The irony part is that KP would probably still be here if Phil Jackson was in charge. Both wanted to trade away KP (lets assume the rumor about phil trading him is true) but the difference is that Phil would not find a trade he would like for weeks or months, but Mills would just in 25 minutes. After weeks or months, the sitution would cool down then KP would apologize then everything would make up.

But not in this case. Mills is Mills and people still refuse to believe it. I think he could wield a chainsaw and chop people right and left in MSG but fans still would say "this guy is probably not right....but.....maybe he has a reason to do so?"

They said they were aware of the situation and had begun exploring trade for a while. It just seemed like 25 minutes because none of us knew how tenuous the situation was. KP is gone and it's a bit of a gut punch, but it is what it is. Can't look back now, only forward to the summer.

The buttom line is that trade deadline is still a week away and Mills now is going to tell me it is the best ever deal he could get? I don't believe him.

It is clear KP wanted to go and it is clear he selected Dallas.
What choice the FO had for a trade but the team KP penciled?
If there is some fault it is in how KP and Knicks relationship transpired over long time.
And there are many parties who acted to lead to the trade.
Inevitable events cannot be stopped.
You just acknowledge them and move on.

Again I am not going to **** on people, as everyone is sad. But, how could it be the best deal? Lakers? Boston? I can think of a lot of teams they really wanted KP and were willing to trade.

At the end, I really hope people would finally realize these two guys are always here (almost).

Mills, and Dolan.

It is not Donnie Walsh, not Isiah Thomas, not Glen Grunwald, not Phil Jackson.

It is always Mills and Dolan.

Name them, put out your details. Boston is absolutely not trading for KP until he returned from injury and proved healthy, see Gordon Hayward. They are also in a playoff hunt and need to resign Kyrie, they ain't busting up that team to save a space for KP next year.

Lakers? Almost in the same spot; LeBron and team are in a playoff hunt and wouldn't risk trading for KP (who they then would want to re-route to New Orleans? who also just shot down a KP trade?).

Knicks probably wanted to send KP to the West. And wanted to get rid of Lee/THJr at the least, so lots of expiring contracts and picks needed to make sure $40M in cap space.

Go for it, put out some scenarios.

Agreed Martin. There have been some that claim its a terrible return yet they dont offer a better or realistic return

We could have stood pat and traded him in the summer to Boston. They would get their start to replace Kyrie. Sorry I just don't get all the trade rules.