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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  4:58 PM
Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up
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fishmike
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1/22/2018  5:02 PM
as usual... glad your not.

You have harped and harped and harped on a variety of guys. Isaiah Thomas is your worst suggestion ever. We are never winning anything paying $30mm to a 5'9 PG with a bad hip. Phucking retarded

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GustavBahler
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1/22/2018  5:08 PM
Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.
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1/22/2018  5:10 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Why wast good assets for 5 more wins per season?
IT is nice little broken jumping jack.
To get little IT we need to get back old IT first.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:10 PM
fishmike wrote:as usual... glad your not.

You have harped and harped and harped on a variety of guys. Isaiah Thomas is your worst suggestion ever. We are never winning anything paying $30mm to a 5'9 PG with a bad hip. Phucking retarded

Nope--gets rid of C Lee's loner term contract and gets me one of the best PGs in the NBA. If its so stupid--can you tell me how he dragged the Cs to the best record and RCF last year? Not 8 years ago--last year--best player on a top 4 team. 29-6-3 46.5%
If we replace J Jack with I thomas--were going to the playoffs this year and we get to see the player first hand for 40 more games. I dont care if you didnt watch him the last two years--I mean the Cs were in the playoffs and the Knicks were figuring out the lottery. Time to get players who can get us advanced.

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1/22/2018  5:11 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2018  5:14 PM
arkrud wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Why wast good assets for 5 more wins per season?
IT is nice little broken jumping jack.
To get little IT we need to get back old IT first.

You get rid of C Lees contract--there is absolute zero downside here? Give the Cavs some defense and solid 2 guard play. We can use Frank at 1-2 with I Thomas and move Thj to 3.

The Knicks sck for what 18 years in a row? I Thomas was big winner last year. You use him as a winner. Hes tough and good. Worst case scenario on this trade--none.

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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:15 PM
fishmike wrote:as usual... glad your not.

You have harped and harped and harped on a variety of guys. Isaiah Thomas is your worst suggestion ever. We are never winning anything paying $30mm to a 5'9 PG with a bad hip. Phucking retarded

Yeah we need to keep C Lee because hes done more in the NBA than Isiah Thomas?? We need to keep Oquinn because hes not opting out?

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GustavBahler
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1/22/2018  5:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.
arkrud
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1/22/2018  5:21 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
arkrud wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Why wast good assets for 5 more wins per season?
IT is nice little broken jumping jack.
To get little IT we need to get back old IT first.

You get rid of C Lees contract--there is absolute zero downside here? Give the Cavs some defense and solid 2 guard play. We can use Frank at 1-2 with I Thomas and move Thj to 3.

The Knicks sck for what 18 years in a row? I Thomas was big winner last year. You use him as a winner. Hes tough and good. Worst case scenario on this trade--none.

To became a good team Knicks need to trade and draft "will be winner" not "have been winners".
Is 18 years of mistakes not big enough to realize this?

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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:22 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.

The guy is in spring training. How can anyone say anything bad about IT---how many great players unable to do what he did? Its hard to average almost 30 a game and win the best record in the east. Defense is a scheme and this is offensive league. If you dont think so go look at best teams--they score a LOT.

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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:24 PM
arkrud wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
arkrud wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Why wast good assets for 5 more wins per season?
IT is nice little broken jumping jack.
To get little IT we need to get back old IT first.

You get rid of C Lees contract--there is absolute zero downside here? Give the Cavs some defense and solid 2 guard play. We can use Frank at 1-2 with I Thomas and move Thj to 3.

The Knicks sck for what 18 years in a row? I Thomas was big winner last year. You use him as a winner. Hes tough and good. Worst case scenario on this trade--none.

To became a good team Knicks need to trade and draft "will be winner" not "have been winners".
Is 18 years of mistakes not big enough to realize this?

Im not moving any draft picks. If we dont draft top 6-7 8-35 is about the same. Whoc ares? Might as well try to win or atleast have a different look. We SCK as is--go reply that Laker game--weve barely beat shtty teams--Brooklyn and utah and weve lost to everyone else.

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1/22/2018  5:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.

The guy is in spring training. How can anyone say anything bad about IT---how many great players unable to do what he did? Its hard to average almost 30 a game and win the best record in the east. Defense is a scheme and this is offensive league. If you dont think so go look at best teams--they score a LOT.

Ive said plenty of positive things about Thomas. Cant get around his injury, or his D. Not interested in an Amare situation again.

The gist of what they were also saying that Thomas has to adjust to not being the man, on a team with LeBron, and other stars. He's apparently dominating the ball too much. Dont know thats true, will have to watch the next game.
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1/22/2018  5:26 PM
We have some not bad players. Get real PG and fire coach. Yes we give up some for THIS year--we replace with Willy G or Noah and give Baker DD and Frank more op.
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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  5:28 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.

The guy is in spring training. How can anyone say anything bad about IT---how many great players unable to do what he did? Its hard to average almost 30 a game and win the best record in the east. Defense is a scheme and this is offensive league. If you dont think so go look at best teams--they score a LOT.

Ive said plenty of positive things about Thomas. Cant get around his injury, or his D. Not interested in an Amare situation again.

The gist of what they were also saying that Thomas has to adjust to not being the man, on a team with LeBron, and other stars. He's apparently dominating the ball too much. Dont know thats true, will have to watch the next game.

Amare situation is giving player 4 years 100mm. I Thomas is free agent. And youre dead right--hes ball dominating PG on a team w Lebron--wont ever work. Hed be good here. and if hes not oh well.

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1/22/2018  5:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.

The guy is in spring training. How can anyone say anything bad about IT---how many great players unable to do what he did? Its hard to average almost 30 a game and win the best record in the east. Defense is a scheme and this is offensive league. If you dont think so go look at best teams--they score a LOT.

Ive said plenty of positive things about Thomas. Cant get around his injury, or his D. Not interested in an Amare situation again.

The gist of what they were also saying that Thomas has to adjust to not being the man, on a team with LeBron, and other stars. He's apparently dominating the ball too much. Dont know thats true, will have to watch the next game.

Amare situation is giving player 4 years 100mm. I Thomas is free agent. And youre dead right--hes ball dominating PG on a team w Lebron--wont ever work. Hed be good here. and if hes not oh well.

LOL which is exactly what you have posted you would do

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1/22/2018  5:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2018  5:51 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Heard Thomas is statistically the worst defender in the league (not sure if its just at PG) and he still has a bum hip. Dont know why that isnt enough to discourage you Briggs.

You heard? From who? I Thomas? Come on?

On ESPN. They threw out some numbers, was doing something else, but it involved being the worst in the league defensively.

The guy is in spring training. How can anyone say anything bad about IT---how many great players unable to do what he did? Its hard to average almost 30 a game and win the best record in the east. Defense is a scheme and this is offensive league. If you dont think so go look at best teams--they score a LOT.

Ive said plenty of positive things about Thomas. Cant get around his injury, or his D. Not interested in an Amare situation again.

The gist of what they were also saying that Thomas has to adjust to not being the man, on a team with LeBron, and other stars. He's apparently dominating the ball too much. Dont know thats true, will have to watch the next game.

Amare situation is giving player 4 years 100mm. I Thomas is free agent. And youre dead right--hes ball dominating PG on a team w Lebron--wont ever work. Hed be good here. and if hes not oh well.

LOL which is exactly what you have posted you would do

If he came back and avg 30-7--hed be getting big contracts... Im not worried about contract--I want to see him play for us for nothing this year

If we moved Oquinn_Id move Noah to Oquinn's spot for the rest of this year--see if I can get some good play and raise value.

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1/22/2018  5:59 PM
fishmike wrote:as usual... glad your not.

You have harped and harped and harped on a variety of guys. Isaiah Thomas is your worst suggestion ever. We are never winning anything paying $30mm to a 5'9 PG with a bad hip. Phucking retarded

Worse than restated. It's a starfukk from a guy who professes to want to rebuild

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1/22/2018  6:06 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Your talking to the masses who thought KI was not worth giving up Frank for.

But why would Cavs take that? After giving up so much?

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BRIGGS
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1/22/2018  6:14 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id offer
Oquinn and Courtney Lee
for Isiah Thomas and Channing Frye straight up

Your talking to the masses who thought KI was not worth giving up Frank for.

But why would Cavs take that? After giving up so much?

They did that deal for the pick. There is no way IT and Lebron can be on one team--not working. IT is no pure PG and that team needs defense from the 5 and a reliable 2 guard. We provide that. What we get is an alpha scoring PG for the rest of this year(to see how he works) and cap space next year. There is 0 downside

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