BRIGGS wrote:I would say yes but he's going to ask for atleast 4-40

Beasley is an idiot. His favorite girlfriend "Mary Jane" is a problem as well.

He's trying now because he wants a contract. Which is why you need to keep a dolt like him on the edge, i.e. always playing for his next contract. He's producing because he's getting volume, but on a winning team, he's a liability. Which is why he was available in the first place.

He's prone to be lazy ( when he's not fighting to stay in the NBA or try to fool a team into being dumb enough to give him a long term deal) and just makes really bad decisions on the court ( Because he's not working on his game)

He loves being an NBA player. (Lifestyle) But does not love playing in the NBA (Disciple of the game). Happens all the time. You just don't give out an engagement ring after one good blowjob.

Briggs, at some point, you are going to turn into The George Constanza Principle. I.E. whatever you think the Knicks should do, they should actually do the opposite.

BRIGGS wrote:
I am hoping to give Beasley a 1 year deal on a large increase. I would consider a 2 year deal, but i want to avoid long term. Beasley is a good player. It's just important to know what he is, and not expect more.
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He was playing like this lAst year with Milwaukee when I said we should consider giving him an mle. If he stays healthy and produces the way he has-- he's getting 4-40 at a minimum.

You tend to forget, like you did with Kanter, that the market matters. Let me ask you this: If he was doing the same thing for Milwaukee last season, than why did he only get the minimum salary for 1 year with us? What makes you think that one of the few teams with cap space will offer him a contract above the MLE when less teams have cap space this summer than last, and last summer he couldn't get anything above the minimum? Briggs, this is just common sense stuff. He should get paid more than the minimum, but getting 4-40 minimum? From who? Same with Kanter, he's not getting near max money just because he wants it, like you suggested.

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:
I am hoping to give Beasley a 1 year deal on a large increase. I would consider a 2 year deal, but i want to avoid long term. Beasley is a good player. It's just important to know what he is, and not expect more.
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He was playing like this lAst year with Milwaukee when I said we should consider giving him an mle. If he stays healthy and produces the way he has-- he's getting 4-40 at a minimum.

You tend to forget, like you did with Kanter, that the market matters. Let me ask you this: If he was doing the same thing for Milwaukee last season, than why did he only get the minimum salary for 1 year with us? What makes you think that one of the few teams with cap space will offer him a contract above the MLE when less teams have cap space this summer than last, and last summer he couldn't get anything above the minimum? Briggs, this is just common sense stuff. He should get paid more than the minimum, but getting 4-40 minimum? From who? Same with Kanter, he's not getting near max money just because he wants it, like you suggested.

He got hurt last year at one point and missed a bunch of games. If he puts up 20-8 most nights 50% he s going to get a very good contract. Hes played very well--hes just good

He's very good in his limited role. He's not a starter or even 6th man for most teams so a contract like that seems very steep. But all it takes is one so I guess you never know.

EnySpree wrote:I love Beasley but his rep is not going to get him 4 years 40 mill... he's going to get a minimum deal, low level or the most mid level exemption... and for 2 years not 4. His rep doesn't hasn't him that respect. Now teams could offer more because they all are stupid. Not one NBA contract is calculated nowadays with any foresight

What has his rep been so far this year?

No complaining about coming off the bench.
No TMZ videos/pics of him in the clubs before/after games
No failed drug tests
No complaints from teammates or coach
No bad press.........all this while putting up some impressive offense numbers. I don't know, man. I think the guy is working his way into a big contract next year.

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I love Beasley but his rep is not going to get him 4 years 40 mill... he's going to get a minimum deal, low level or the most mid level exemption... and for 2 years not 4. His rep doesn't hasn't him that respect. Now teams could offer more because they all are stupid. Not one NBA contract is calculated nowadays with any foresight

What has his rep been so far this year?

No complaining about coming off the bench.
No TMZ videos/pics of him in the clubs before/after games
No failed drug tests
No complaints from teammates or coach
No bad press.........all this while putting up some impressive offense numbers. I don't know, man. I think the guy is working his way into a big contract next year.

Guys in this forum don't even want to see him coming off the bench because of his past. He's having a career year yet guys still calling out his defense and IQ... in my mind he's worth 4-40... but the stigma surrounding Beas probably won't get him that money

EnySpree wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I love Beasley but his rep is not going to get him 4 years 40 mill... he's going to get a minimum deal, low level or the most mid level exemption... and for 2 years not 4. His rep doesn't hasn't him that respect. Now teams could offer more because they all are stupid. Not one NBA contract is calculated nowadays with any foresight

What has his rep been so far this year?

No complaining about coming off the bench.
No TMZ videos/pics of him in the clubs before/after games
No failed drug tests
No complaints from teammates or coach
No bad press.........all this while putting up some impressive offense numbers. I don't know, man. I think the guy is working his way into a big contract next year.

Guys in this forum don't even want to see him coming off the bench because of his past. He's having a career year yet guys still calling out his defense and IQ... in my mind he's worth 4-40... but the stigma surrounding Beas probably won't get him that money

He is doing the right things this year, it does not cancel out the past. Both are true not either or.

TheGame wrote:If we could resign Beasley on a two year deal for say $7-$9 mil per year, then you have to do it. If he wants a bigger commitment, I would probably look somewhere else. He is a classic example of playing well for a new contract type. He has never played this disciplined on offense or defense so unless he had an epiphany, he is just playing for a new deal. You have to factor that in and I would not sign him for more than two years.

I am hoping he is playing this way because he is happy in NY and has matured. He seems to be very happy in his role here. He knows that doing what he's doing in NY is better than doing it someplace else.

EnySpree wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I love Beasley but his rep is not going to get him 4 years 40 mill... he's going to get a minimum deal, low level or the most mid level exemption... and for 2 years not 4. His rep doesn't hasn't him that respect. Now teams could offer more because they all are stupid. Not one NBA contract is calculated nowadays with any foresight

What has his rep been so far this year?

No complaining about coming off the bench.
No TMZ videos/pics of him in the clubs before/after games
No failed drug tests
No complaints from teammates or coach
No bad press.........all this while putting up some impressive offense numbers. I don't know, man. I think the guy is working his way into a big contract next year.

Guys in this forum don't even want to see him coming off the bench because of his past. He's having a career year yet guys still calling out his defense and IQ... in my mind he's worth 4-40... but the stigma surrounding Beas probably won't get him that money