I ask because he seems to have synergy with KP on both ends, e.g., Enes doesn't have to pretend to be a rim protector

Wondering if his numbers are materially different when he's the big man on the court, and not 2d option

regardless it is an enigma as is his defense; he strikes me as intelligent (at least judged by conversation); one would think he can learn whatever it is they're trying to get him to do; his low post moves suggest he should be ok with whatever footwork he needs on defense

BigRedDog wrote:+/- is a terrible stat that somehow needs to be refined. Example Knicks- Clev. Late in the game Clev's offense is spread out, Frank guarding Wade. Frank over playing Wade to his right too much, frank turns his head , Wade drives by for a layup and is fouled by the help defender( 3 pt play) ( don't remember who was the help defender). The only persons that should have gotten a -3 on that play were Frankie and the help defender. This happens on almost every play where defenders are playing good defense, doing what they are supposed to do and because someone had a breakdown or played poor defense every defender gets a negative score. Fastbreaks where someone let his man get down court ,again everyone gets a negative score. Same with these open 3's. If someone is giving his man too much space and can't close out in time everyone on the court gets a negatve 3. It is not an accurate stat.

BigRedDog wrote:+/- is a terrible stat that somehow needs to be refined. Example Knicks- Clev. Late in the game Clev's offense is spread out, Frank guarding Wade. Frank over playing Wade to his right too much, frank turns his head , Wade drives by for a layup and is fouled by the help defender( 3 pt play) ( don't remember who was the help defender). The only persons that should have gotten a -3 on that play were Frankie and the help defender. This happens on almost every play where defenders are playing good defense, doing what they are supposed to do and because someone had a breakdown or played poor defense every defender gets a negative score. Fastbreaks where someone let his man get down court ,again everyone gets a negative score. Same with these open 3's. If someone is giving his man too much space and can't close out in time everyone on the court gets a negatve 3. It is not an accurate stat.

Its not Kanters fault. Kanter shouldve played more against Cleveland. When we were up +20 if we slowed the game down and took it into the post repeatedly with KIanter--were scoring more points and moving the clock. Hes also shown to be a passer. I see what Jeff is doing he uses a defensive line up that has worked at times with KO Frank etc.. bt bottom line is +- is highly subjective.

bernard wrote:I think it's the "d" and small sample size. To RedDog's point, you need a big sample size for the kind of stuff he's talking about to even out (your teammates' screw ups that have nothing to do with you getting balanced by their good plays that have nothing to do with. you). Still, to the eyeball test, Enis is still just a terrible PNR defender. He usually gets caught in-between, neither stopping the ball nor staying on his man. And when he does switch, he can't stick with the ball handler. If I'm coaching against him, I'm running PNR all night long. All that said, it's hard not to be a Kanter fan. Guy's got tons of heart and is a top 5 NBA post player. Still a useful piece, regardless of +/-.

nyknickspodcast wrote:

Nalod wrote:After the "New Oak" shine wears off and all is said and done, we progress into larger samples and the analytics start to evolve and tell a story.
Our storyline needs to bring Noah on the court and see what he can bring. It will determine his value if any trade is to materialize.
The free agency money is tight this summer and Enes might not find big long term money waiting for him.
I only saw the 4th qtr last night, he was not on the court.

Who is Noah taking minutes from though? Kanter and KOQ are playing well and don't deserve to lose minutes to a guy who has been washed up for 3 years.

Here are some analytics--if we played Enes more against Clev and Detroit wed be 10-4. Enes provides ez baskets. Some games we wont match up 4-5 because we go to big--but thats up to JH to find the solution--perhaps using KP on the stretch 4.

http://www.fantasylabs.com/nba/on-off/

Just looking at Net Ratings it’s clear who should be playing more minutes! Limiting Kanter’s minutes is probably the right call. IMO when you mix Jack, Kanter and CLee it’s not our best combination.