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knicks1248
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7/3/2017  10:29 AM
It's no wonder when he was dump the 1ts time, no team wanted him at all.
Im reading quotes like

Understand something: Mills is a smart, personable Princeton guy. He just doesn’t belong anywhere near a job like general manager of an NBA team. Dolan hands him the Knicks anyway, not so terribly long after kicking him to the curb.
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7/3/2017  10:31 AM
Here we go again.you will never be satisfied no matter who it is.
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Vmart wrote:Here we go again.you will never be satisfied no matter who it is.

Don't you want someone with a proven track record running your business, or are you the type to give any friend or family member a job despite being very incompetent.

Right now Dolan has Given him a opportunity to turn the ship in a winning direction, and he is busy listening to melo's camp offering to go places he knows there wont be a deal there worth taking. They have no young players to give back, Love or Anderson would have to be involve, both of whom play KP's position.

Your going to run around for weeks trying to trade melo only to get no deal done, and miss out on every available 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier Free Agents to point this team upward..You still have to build a winning culture

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Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

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Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.

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7/3/2017  4:20 PM
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....

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7/3/2017  4:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.


I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.
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7/3/2017  4:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2017  4:31 PM
Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.
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7/3/2017  4:40 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.

He doesn't need to update you or anyone. He is doing fine, we will get an update when the time is right.

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Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....

So he is basically banking on LeBron leaving. He could have got him for 3 year 65. Or he could have given the contract to George Hill who would have come cheaper and the Raptors still make the playoffs in the weak east.

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7/3/2017  4:54 PM
Vmart wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....

So he is basically banking on LeBron leaving. He could have got him for 3 year 65. Or he could have given the contract to George Hill who would have come cheaper and the Raptors still make the playoffs in the weak east.


He not banking on anything other than getting a fresh deck to play with after 3 years. They already have a good team, with chemistry....why go for G. Hill....pay your guy and move forward...if things do not work after 3 years .....clean slate...smart move..."Chess baby..not Checkers"
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7/3/2017  4:57 PM
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....

So he is basically banking on LeBron leaving. He could have got him for 3 year 65. Or he could have given the contract to George Hill who would have come cheaper and the Raptors still make the playoffs in the weak east.


He not banking on anything other than getting a fresh deck to play with after 3 years. They already have a good team, with chemistry....why go for G. Hill....pay your guy and move forward...if things do not work after 3 years .....clean slate...smart move..."Chess baby..not Checkers"

So basically he gets do overs. That won't work here three years is all you get to get your work in.

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7/3/2017  5:02 PM
Vmart wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....

So he is basically banking on LeBron leaving. He could have got him for 3 year 65. Or he could have given the contract to George Hill who would have come cheaper and the Raptors still make the playoffs in the weak east.


He not banking on anything other than getting a fresh deck to play with after 3 years. They already have a good team, with chemistry....why go for G. Hill....pay your guy and move forward...if things do not work after 3 years .....clean slate...smart move..."Chess baby..not Checkers"

So basically he gets do overs. That won't work here three years is all you get to get your work in.

He is just playing the hand he is dealt....nit trying to overplay....he is not perfect...exhibit A..D. Carroll contract but he has: different expectations....different team...different goals.......and 3 years is better than doing a do over ever year which is what we have just went through with Phil and will go through this year...

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7/3/2017  5:12 PM
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....


Lowry will be 34 in three years. Chances are that he will be on the decline. Ibaka and Lowry have the same agent. There was talk that this was a package deal. I think he did the right thing. He either resigned both guys or they start a rebuild. Not giving the extra yearswas the smart mve but he might have had to over pay. Look at Deng, Moz, and Noah's deals. If the Celtics don't get Hayward the raptors might be the second best team in the east.
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nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.


I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Mills sucks and the entire league knows it, stop using the rebuild mode to justify why nobody wants to come here, and mills can't complete anything. The young core still has to be surrounded by winning vets.

Ask yourself, what has gone right since mills has been here.

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CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there.

What Ujiri did was smart was to layout a 3 yr track to run....if the team cant make it out of the East in 3 years...lowry & ibaka...off the books...maybe even move Derozan...he did not lock himself in with 5 yr deals....yes the deals are pretty immovable during the life of the deal..esp Lowry...but he did the smart thing....push the annual Salary and not the years....


Lowry will be 34 in three years. Chances are that he will be on the decline. Ibaka and Lowry have the same agent. There was talk that this was a package deal. I think he did the right thing. He either resigned both guys or they start a rebuild. Not giving the extra yearswas the smart mve but he might have had to over pay. Look at Deng, Moz, and Noah's deals. If the Celtics don't get Hayward the raptors might be the second best team in the east.

What surprised me was that he had the "cajones" to push only 3 yr deals....I guess after last years drunken sailor spending spree that there was not much competition... otherwise I believe Lowry and Ibaka walk.

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7/3/2017  5:27 PM
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nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.


I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Mills sucks and the entire league knows it, stop using the rebuild mode to justify why nobody wants to come here, and mills can't complete anything. The young core still has to be surrounded by winning vets.

Ask yourself, what has gone right since mills has been here.


Mills is not GM...he held the title because Dolan wanted him to fit in org chart...Mills is a business guy.....the Knicks have at least 2 former GMs on the payroll
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Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..

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nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Everyone that applies will come with flaws. Find me a mistake free GM out there. They all have mistakes. Mills to me is the logical choice he has been doing this for a while and ready to take the next step. As president. I think Houston or the many executives on the staff can do well for the Knicks. Griffin is useless. He benefited from LeBron coming back or he would be no different than T-Wolves past GMs. Perpetual lottery team. A lot of bad contracts too.

Ujiri just handed Lowery 33 million per year a whopping 3 years 100 million that is a mark of a over paying GM. For what 50 wins and swift kick in the nuts out the playoffs. The grass ain't always greener out there. The Knicks would be wise to keep it unknown or a lesser known GM to keep the dumb ass media off their back. Any big name will attract the media into a frenzy and put a target in the back of the GM.

Don't draw attention stay out of the lime light. Less the GM is know the better it will be.

Mills hasn't even spoke to the media at summer league to let fans know diddly squat, which he so gladly ran his mouth off last summer league.


I'm not sure what you don't know about what the team is doing. Pretty clear that they're going to develop and build around the young core they have drafted and that isn't very sexy. No point stating the obvious. There isn't going to be any Miami Style Super Friends or Banana Boat Reunions. You're gonna have to enjoy watching your young draft picks develop!!! No matter who we sign or trade for this is going to be a PROCESS.

Mills sucks and the entire league knows it, stop using the rebuild mode to justify why nobody wants to come here, and mills can't complete anything. The young core still has to be surrounded by winning vets.

Ask yourself, what has gone right since mills has been here.

You do realize that the Knicks are not offering these FA's the contracts they're getting with other teams right? There are FA's that would come but the Knicks obviously have a plan that they are sticking to with these contracts.

What do you mean by "winning vets"? Guys that are impact players on winning teams or vets that have been role players on winning teams? The Knicks do have some vets and only need a vet PG the mentor and bridge the gap. There's no need to rush this.

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knicks1248 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Who is this quote from? Without any reasons given for the opinion, it's not exactly useful.

The quote was from a daily news piece on the firing of grunwald when he held the position in interim.

If you remember back then, didn't he signed JR smiths brother, and sat on his hands until phil got here. The team was struggling with injuries, and never even got a legit back up for tyson with the broken leg, he knew JR was coming off knee surgery, and never had a back up. He never did anything, he just let woodson struggle to maintain with a roster that needed a face lift.

Cmon on you don't remember..


He was bad that year. He also didn't back Woodson up when JR was being a knucklehead and Shump was screaming in Woodson's face. He didn't stop Shump from playing and getting injured when he had a trade set up with the Clippers. The front office prevented Amare and Kmart from playing consecutive games and more than ten minutes a game, and Woodson was forced to keep Chris Smith instead of a big.... That year sucked.
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