nychamp wrote:Can someone please explain to me why the Knicks would be interested in bringing him back? I'm not asking you to agree with it, but I honestly can't fathom what the reasoning would be for such a move. I thought the organization was at peace with the idea of lowering expectactions and developing younger guys. He was an awful fit with Porzingis and has one tool. Any insight into the Knick thinking? Just heard on ESPN radio now that the Knicks are "definitely interested" in resigning him.

They probably wont. Think KP's camp did not like KP playing alongside him. Believe Rose was Phil's guy. Which made no sense as he just passed on D. Smith. Jr. Unless he is on the cheap and can start passing more. Would have to be Jeff really wanting to run PnR offense with KP.

That isn't listening to ESPN, that's reading his stats as you suggested.

If you're looking for Frank to have a mentor who can work with him, Rose is not your guy.

If you're looking for a PG to provide perimeter D, Rose is not your guy.

If you're looking for a PG to spread the floor with his outside game, Rose is not your guy.

Even if you could get him for pennies on the dollar, Rose does nothing to help build the franchise.

I can't even understand why he's in the mix right now, unless his agent is trying to create a demand for him.

GustavBahler wrote:Bleacher report:

27. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks (Previous Ranking: No. 26)

Age: 28

Per-Game Stats: 18.0 points, 3.8 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 17.0 PER, minus-2.75 RPM, minus-83.63 TPA

If you think Derrick Rose belongs any higher, your reasoning likely falls into one of two lines of thought: Either Rose's name and the remnants of his MVP reputation have swayed you, or you can't get past the fact he's averaging 18 points and 4.4 assists. No matter which school of thought you subscribe to, you'd be looking past his atrocious defense (which often involves little-to-no effort), his set-commandeering tendencies and his lack of floor-spacing ability.

nychamp wrote:Can someone please explain to me why the Knicks would be interested in bringing him back? I'm not asking you to agree with it, but I honestly can't fathom what the reasoning would be for such a move. I thought the organization was at peace with the idea of lowering expectactions and developing younger guys. He was an awful fit with Porzingis and has one tool. Any insight into the Knick thinking? Just heard on ESPN radio now that the Knicks are "definitely interested" in resigning him.

Because he ticks all the boxes for Knicks signings:

-Selfish
-Can't/won't play defense
-injury history
-a**hole
-aging and declining

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Bleacher report:

27. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks (Previous Ranking: No. 26)

Age: 28

Per-Game Stats: 18.0 points, 3.8 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 17.0 PER, minus-2.75 RPM, minus-83.63 TPA

If you think Derrick Rose belongs any higher, your reasoning likely falls into one of two lines of thought: Either Rose's name and the remnants of his MVP reputation have swayed you, or you can't get past the fact he's averaging 18 points and 4.4 assists. No matter which school of thought you subscribe to, you'd be looking past his atrocious defense (which often involves little-to-no effort), his set-commandeering tendencies and his lack of floor-spacing ability.

Defense is coached!! If a player isn't playing D.(that you practice AGAIN that you practice) then you take him out an point out his mistakes. Yes/NO?? Never so Jeff do that with anybody, period. Is playing defense solely Rose?? It's easy for you to write that Rose doesn't play defensive, very easy. But who is responsible for team defensive?? It the coach, GustavBahler!! Nowhere have you mention any the other 4 players on the court with Rose. Where is the rim protection, where is the players that switches if you man get pass you?? Lack of floor-spacing?? Please that happen if all the players are moving without the ball. C'mon you guys can say somethings that average no bb knowledge will say, 'yeah that right'. Try that one someone that doesn't know BB.

Another realgm refugee......

Why very little to say, Huh??
If you knew anything about 'Real BB' then you would have more to say to back up those statement. They are of course with any merit so you just say "another realgm refugee".

Among the Knicks players who played under hornachek last season, rose was one of the worst defensively and certainly worst among the veterans who did and would command a large salary.

his comparative performance coaching and scheme being equal suggests an individual lack of aptitude.

Among 15 bad defensive players there is still relative ability and his is among the worst.

He also shows a career-long lack of passing skill that is now more problematic as his true shooting percentage has declined, due to a negative trend in his ability to finish and draw fouls.

He is more of a ISO shooting guard that can't shoot. Still has 'elite' penetrating ability but it does not translate to either setting up teammates for easy baskets or high percentage conversionS for himself.

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Bleacher report:

27. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks (Previous Ranking: No. 26)

Age: 28

Per-Game Stats: 18.0 points, 3.8 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 17.0 PER, minus-2.75 RPM, minus-83.63 TPA

If you think Derrick Rose belongs any higher, your reasoning likely falls into one of two lines of thought: Either Rose's name and the remnants of his MVP reputation have swayed you, or you can't get past the fact he's averaging 18 points and 4.4 assists. No matter which school of thought you subscribe to, you'd be looking past his atrocious defense (which often involves little-to-no effort), his set-commandeering tendencies and his lack of floor-spacing ability.

Defense is coached!! If a player isn't playing D.(that you practice AGAIN that you practice) then you take him out an point out his mistakes. Yes/NO?? Never so Jeff do that with anybody, period. Is playing defense solely Rose?? It's easy for you to write that Rose doesn't play defensive, very easy. But who is responsible for team defensive?? It the coach, GustavBahler!! Nowhere have you mention any the other 4 players on the court with Rose. Where is the rim protection, where is the players that switches if you man get pass you?? Lack of floor-spacing?? Please that happen if all the players are moving without the ball. C'mon you guys can say somethings that average no bb knowledge will say, 'yeah that right'. Try that one someone that doesn't know BB.

Another realgm refugee......

Why very little to say, Huh??
If you knew anything about 'Real BB' then you would have more to say to back up those statement. They are of course with any merit so you just say "another realgm refugee".

I have more to say to adults. I posted some stats and you respond with a tantrum. Like I said, another realgm refugee...

You correct in posting stats.
If you act like an adults then you will be treated like one. I responded and called you out on statement you made Rose defense. I asked you several questions that are basic knowledge to anyone that knows the game of 'Real BB'. You never answered or responded to either. When there is no answer and no idea how to respond it seen to always come back to someone else maturity.
GO LEARN THE GAME!!

If you really knew the game, you wouldnt have to keep saying it. I guess your little crush is flattering, but until you start acting like an actual adult, you can go play in your sandbox with your Derrick Rose action figure.

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

rickyd wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Bleacher report:

27. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks (Previous Ranking: No. 26)

Age: 28

Per-Game Stats: 18.0 points, 3.8 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 17.0 PER, minus-2.75 RPM, minus-83.63 TPA

If you think Derrick Rose belongs any higher, your reasoning likely falls into one of two lines of thought: Either Rose's name and the remnants of his MVP reputation have swayed you, or you can't get past the fact he's averaging 18 points and 4.4 assists. No matter which school of thought you subscribe to, you'd be looking past his atrocious defense (which often involves little-to-no effort), his set-commandeering tendencies and his lack of floor-spacing ability.

Defense is coached!! If a player isn't playing D.(that you practice AGAIN that you practice) then you take him out an point out his mistakes. Yes/NO?? Never so Jeff do that with anybody, period. Is playing defense solely Rose?? It's easy for you to write that Rose doesn't play defensive, very easy. But who is responsible for team defensive?? It the coach, GustavBahler!! Nowhere have you mention any the other 4 players on the court with Rose. Where is the rim protection, where is the players that switches if you man get pass you?? Lack of floor-spacing?? Please that happen if all the players are moving without the ball. C'mon you guys can say somethings that average no bb knowledge will say, 'yeah that right'. Try that one someone that doesn't know BB.

Another realgm refugee......

Why very little to say, Huh??
If you knew anything about 'Real BB' then you would have more to say to back up those statement. They are of course with any merit so you just say "another realgm refugee".

I have more to say to adults. I posted some stats and you respond with a tantrum. Like I said, another realgm refugee...

You correct in posting stats.
If you act like an adults then you will be treated like one. I responded and called you out on statement you made Rose defense. I asked you several questions that are basic knowledge to anyone that knows the game of 'Real BB'. You never answered or responded to either. When there is no answer and no idea how to respond it seen to always come back to someone else maturity.
GO LEARN THE GAME!!

If you really knew the game, you wouldnt have to keep saying it. I guess your little crush is flattering, but until you start acting like an actual adult, you can go play in your sandbox with your Derrick Rose action figure.

And if you knew the game it should be very easy to answer basic BB questions. Simple questions for someone like yourself. If you think it flattering by all means bath in it. See you have a problem with someone questioning your post. It easy to say things with no one asking for an explanation. So go run and hide. We'll leave it that, huh. BTW, does Rose have an action figure?? HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE TOY DEPT. IN YEARS.