Shelbourne tweeted that Mills will be Pres/Griffin GM if Griffin hired
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CrushAlot
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6/30/2017 3:16 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
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6/30/2017 3:20 PM
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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frenchy00
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6/30/2017 3:35 PM
On biard w this move
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StarksEwing1
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6/30/2017 3:48 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen.  |
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StarksEwing1
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6/30/2017 4:13 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Did I say Phil was a good executive? I had no problem with his firing. My point is if you expected to get a great President replacement at this point you are dreaming. those guys are either working for other teams or they're hesitant of taking the job because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. |
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CrushAlot
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6/30/2017 4:21 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Did I say Phil was a good executive? I had no problem with his firing. My point is if you expected to get a great President replacement at this point you are dreaming. those guys are either working for other teams or they're hesitant of taking the job because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. I was very excited when Phil was hired. He had a tremendous opportunity with power and autonomy. His performance was more than disappointing. But my hope is that Dolan has recognized the importance of stepping away and letting his basketball guys make decisions. I was excited to hear about the guy they brought in to help Mills with the hunt for a new pres. He appears to be a guy that would find a person qualified to do the job. I hope that is what he does. I don't think Mills is that guy. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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StarksEwing1
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6/30/2017 4:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I don't have the same optimism you do. This team has been a mess since 2000 mostly because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Did I say Phil was a good executive? I had no problem with his firing. My point is if you expected to get a great President replacement at this point you are dreaming. those guys are either working for other teams or they're hesitant of taking the job because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. |
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CrushAlot
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6/30/2017 4:31 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Phil was given autonomy and the power to change that. It is too bad he was not a good executive.CrushAlot wrote:I don't have the same optimism you do. This team has been a mess since 2000 mostly because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Did I say Phil was a good executive? I had no problem with his firing. My point is if you expected to get a great President replacement at this point you are dreaming. those guys are either working for other teams or they're hesitant of taking the job because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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StarksEwing1
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6/30/2017 4:34 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Not sure why you keeping bringing Phil up. You don't have to convince me he was a bad executive I know that.StarksEwing1 wrote:Phil was given autonomy and the power to change that. It is too bad he was not a good executive.CrushAlot wrote:I don't have the same optimism you do. This team has been a mess since 2000 mostly because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Did I say Phil was a good executive? I had no problem with his firing. My point is if you expected to get a great President replacement at this point you are dreaming. those guys are either working for other teams or they're hesitant of taking the job because of Dolan.StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. |
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GustavBahler
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6/30/2017 5:21 PM LAST EDITED: 6/30/2017 5:24 PM
Phil only took half my suggestion, lol. I said put Mills back at president and Gaines at GM. Griffin wouldn't have the same relationship with Dolan, Dolan had with Isiah (unless he wins a lot) so it might work better with Mills as president again without Isiah having the run of the place. Still doesnt look like they would be cleaning house.
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Jmpasq
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6/30/2017 7:18 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Phil only took half my suggestion, lol. I said put Mills back at president and Gaines at GM. Griffin wouldn't have the same relationship with Dolan, Dolan had with Isiah (unless he wins a lot) so it might work better with Mills as president again without Isiah having the run of the place. Still doesnt look like they would be cleaning house. Gaines should be the choice watch him get hired off our staff Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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meloshouldgo
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6/30/2017 7:28 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. Stupid is as stupid does. We deserve this. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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nixluva
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6/30/2017 7:33 PM
Phil was offered up to the masses as a sacrifice. The Knicks Brass don't feel like they need a complete overhaul. Phil wasn't kidding when he said they think they know what they're doing. Phil basically did everything that he could at this point with regards to setting up the rebuild. Phil chose all of the players we have on the team and on the Summer League team.
Essentially the hard work is already done. Adding a stop gap PG isn't hard work!!! What is it that you think any GM is going to be doing right now anyway? This team isn't about trying to win a Title next year. This is about player development now. They're gonna let these young players grow and then figure out what they've got and what they may need. There's no rush to hire a new guy. The machine Phil left is still running. |
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GustavBahler
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6/30/2017 7:47 PM
Jmpasq wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Phil only took half my suggestion, lol. I said put Mills back at president and Gaines at GM. Griffin wouldn't have the same relationship with Dolan, Dolan had with Isiah (unless he wins a lot) so it might work better with Mills as president again without Isiah having the run of the place. Still doesnt look like they would be cleaning house. His rep goes back to the Bulls championship years, strong drafting in NY, and his father is a legendary coach. Gaines has the pedigree for bigger and better things, so I hope the Knicks are smart enough to make him a part of the franchise's future. |
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newyorknewyork
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6/30/2017 8:00 PM
nixluva wrote:Phil was offered up to the masses as a sacrifice. The Knicks Brass don't feel like they need a complete overhaul. Phil wasn't kidding when he said they think they know what they're doing. Phil basically did everything that he could at this point with regards to setting up the rebuild. Phil chose all of the players we have on the team and on the Summer League team. We need someone clever that can turn Courtney Lee and KOQ into future draft picks. Eat a short term contract of a team looking to shed salary for FA to acquire draft pick(s) . https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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newyorknewyork
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6/30/2017 8:22 PM
Like Courtney Lee to Pelicans for 2019 draft pick and 2020 right to swap & Omar Asik.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Bonn1997
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7/1/2017 8:56 AM
CrushAlot wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:He needed to be gone. He wasn't a good executive. It doesn't seem like you need a consultant to rehire the guy that had the job before and wasn't good at it. If Mills had spent the last three years working under a very good president then maybe this makes sense.CrushAlot wrote:Well you wanted Phil gone...this is what is gonna happen. What makes you think Mills is bad? He's never been the one calling the shots. |
Shelbourne tweeted that Mills will be Pres/Griffin GM if Griffin hired