Allanfan20 wrote:Sinix wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Phil was halfway between rebuilding (draft picks) and starphucking (overpaying for big names). This could go in any direction now. We could get pure starphucking which would be worse, or could get our first real rebuild.
No, the Knicks were in total rebuild with Phil. I didn't get the feel the Knicks were looking to make big signings this off season. Phil said point blank that Melo would probably be better off moving to a contending team so that denotes that he is committed to building rather than winning.
Rest assured, now the Knicks will look to overpay and most likely will move draft picks.
Melo is 32 and the defacto GM. Expect the Knicks to make a few moves now.
Excuse me? The Knicks were in total rebuild with Phil? Then why did they get Derrick Rose and Noah and Courtney Lee in the first place? Then, when it looked like we could compete for the top pick in the draft, why didn't the Knicks order Horny to bench Rose and Melo and even KP for the rest of the year?
Mid season last season marked the beginning of the tank.
With all that has come out about Melo usurping authority from Phil what makes you think the order didn't come down?
There were orders to play the triangle and ball movement but we know that wasn't carried out either with Melo.
I've been posting a direct story from George Karl the past couple days-
"But his real WTF moment occurred in March 2009 in the third quarter of a game against the Pacers. Carmelo had not scored much all night but then made two in a row. It was time for him to come out for a rest so I sent in his backup, Linas Kleiza, as I usually did. At the next dead ball, LK went in. But Carmelo refused to come out! After long moments of people staring at each other in confusion, but before we got a technical foul for having too many men on the court, Kenyon, to his credit, walked to the bench.
Well, well, well. Here was a new wrinkle in the coach/player power struggle, one I’d never seen before. It was also an incredible F-U to me. We suspended him for the next game.
After the game, which we lost 100–94, I had to talk to the media about it. Should I show my disgust at Melo’s childishness and lack of respect? No. I tried to be calm and understanding of behavior I couldn’t understand at all. So I swallowed my tongue. “There’s a thin line between passion and emotional immaturity,” I said. “It happens all the time, to coaches, too. We snap and act like idiots on the sideline because of the emotional stress of the game.”
Does it start to make sense now why, on the court over the past year, we've been making these moves that make 0 sense for the future of the Knicks? Like competing in games we should be tanking.
That's Melo undermining the front office for his own benefit.
Try and tell me with a straight face it's more likely Phil Jackson is inept vs Melo undermining.
Which is more likely based on the track record of these two guys?
6/28/2017 8:15 AM