I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

nyknickzingis wrote:Don't think he is the right pick over Monk or DSJ now in hindsight that Triangle is gone, and if Hornachek stays it will be a full fast break, high tempo offense.

I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

nyknickzingis wrote:Don't think he is the right pick over Monk or DSJ now in hindsight that Triangle is gone, and if Hornachek stays it will be a full fast break, high tempo offense.

I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

Think it was the draft night that got Phil fired. KP on the block and passing on other "Non Triangle" best available players.

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Don't think he is the right pick over Monk or DSJ now in hindsight that Triangle is gone, and if Hornachek stays it will be a full fast break, high tempo offense.

I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

Think it was the draft night that got Phil fired. KP on the block and passing on other "Non Triangle" best available players.

word is, dolans inner circle had been pushing him to fire phil since April...frank seems like a solid pick, Im just hoping we can now use KP, and the few young players we have correctly, and develop them in a non toxic way..

fishmike wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Don't think he is the right pick over Monk or DSJ now in hindsight that Triangle is gone, and if Hornachek stays it will be a full fast break, high tempo offense.

I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

Ntilikina is a perfect small ball player. Can defend multiple spots, hit from long, handle the ball... nothing changes. This is a good player for us moving forward. I would not want a redo on this draft, especially considering its the same crew that picked KP/Willy. If not for them Mudiay is probably a Knick and KP plays for the Magic.

KP was a great pick! But he was also an athletic Phenom. 7'3 guy that can move like he does and shoot the three. You have to take him. Frank is a different story. Think Dennis Smith is the only one that would fall in that Phenom category in this draft. He was once rated number 1 among the players in this years draft class because of it and he is still incredibly athletic. Really do feel its one of the reasons Phil got fired. But your right, Phil did draft KP and Willy and by extension Gaines, so it made sense to let them draft this year. Just not sold on Frank but hoping your right.

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Don't think he is the right pick over Monk or DSJ now in hindsight that Triangle is gone, and if Hornachek stays it will be a full fast break, high tempo offense.

I do believe Phil/Gaines are good drafters. Look at KP, Willy. I think Nti will fit in any offense and his defensive potential is huge, but if Dolan was do this, ass should have done it before the draft. Or perhaps he knew Phil drafts well and wanted this process to be over before they made a move.

But I think if Phil and Dolan part ways a month ago, it's a totally different draft for us.

Think it was the draft night that got Phil fired. KP on the block and passing on other "Non Triangle" best available players.

makes zero sense. They kept him FOR the draft. Thats the one thing he's done well. Ntilikina is not a stretch. At all.

Based on Begley's report, it has been building all year.

It sucks because this org needs an infusion of youth and player development. Phil brought those things, however he showed no ability to build a team, manage coaches or what FAs were good fits.

CrushAlot wrote:I don't think so. I think Smith or Monk would have been the pick. I liked the pick of Frank because I thought it was a commitment to rebuild. Smith might be the second or third best players in the draft. He has a grat chance of winning the Roy next year.

Agreed...if not for the injury in high school, Smith is a top 3 pick...IMO, Frank was a stretch at 8...