Why are we messing with the triangle? Phil Jackson will be gone in 2 years and we will be no closer to making it to the second round in the playpffs. With Melo we have a star. An old star but still a star. With Rose we have a star but a selfish star that wont fit. 4 super stars that can play together is the only way we can succeed. The triangle won't work because every team will be waiting for us. We will need dead eye 3 point shooters and defenders in order to win games. Phil Jackson is living in the past. The triangle was good in the 90s but not the way the game is played today. We need super stars. four of them just to get to the second round and when we have that Phil will be long gone. We need to pick the best players point blank. and not pick on how they can play the triangle. 1. A point guard who can get to the basket and also shoot 3s and the rest of the starting line up must be able to knock down 3s at a high percentage.

Nobody is getting into the finals the next few years without having a minimum of 3 superstars.... it's not the triangle. You said all that yourself. Were not trying to win next year... Were not trying to win the year after that... so save me the bull****.

fwk00 wrote:So *THAT'S* all we need - 4 or five superstars AND get rid of the Triangle that would confuse those 5 or 6 superstars from winning?

Sheeeeeeeeeeeet, why didn't you send Phil a text message to do that instead?

Yeah, he really needs that memo lol What, that's one or two more stars than he was used to having with the Bulls or Lakers? The years of substance experimentation have killed his ability to count. Good things he has posters like us to point those things out to him. He's probably to old and crippled to turn on remote. He probably still relies on cable to watch games. Someone should tell that's not Bill Clinton in the White House and that he doesn't need scouts anymore. He can do it all at his nursing home using YouTube and DraftX.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Why are we messing with the triangle? Phil Jackson will be gone in 2 years and we will be no closer to making it to the second round in the playpffs. With Melo we have a star. An old star but still a star. With Rose we have a star but a selfish star that wont fit. 4 super stars that can play together is the only way we can succeed. The triangle won't work because every team will be waiting for us. We will need dead eye 3 point shooters and defenders in order to win games. Phil Jackson is living in the past. The triangle was good in the 90s but not the way the game is played today. We need super stars. four of them just to get to the second round and when we have that Phil will be long gone. We need to pick the best players point blank. and not pick on how they can play the triangle. 1. A point guard who can get to the basket and also shoot 3s and the rest of the starting line up must be able to knock down 3s at a high percentage.

Jackson needs to man up and just acquire the best talent, develop a system to maximize their skills and let the chips fall where they may. This force feeding the triangle is nothing more than pacifying Phil's ego in an attempt to validate his precious offensive system.

If Curry was asked to run the offense the way Nash had to. He would be good but he wouldn't be as good as the Curry we see today.

He is more of a combo guard that makes good decisions than a true PG

And this is the reason why Durant left OKC for the Warriors. He was in love with there style of play. 4 guys that just create for each other.

And its the same principals that should apply to our drafts and moves under the triangle. Acquire as many multifacted team players as possible. And allow them to elevate each other.

fwk00 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Why are we messing with the triangle? Phil Jackson will be gone in 2 years and we will be no closer to making it to the second round in the playpffs. With Melo we have a star. An old star but still a star. With Rose we have a star but a selfish star that wont fit. 4 super stars that can play together is the only way we can succeed. The triangle won't work because every team will be waiting for us. We will need dead eye 3 point shooters and defenders in order to win games. Phil Jackson is living in the past. The triangle was good in the 90s but not the way the game is played today. We need super stars. four of them just to get to the second round and when we have that Phil will be long gone. We need to pick the best players point blank. and not pick on how they can play the triangle. 1. A point guard who can get to the basket and also shoot 3s and the rest of the starting line up must be able to knock down 3s at a high percentage.

I have the same question. It seems to repel potential free agents, existing players don't want to play it, the coach doesn't want to run it, and it limits the team because you have to find "triangle players."

Jackson needs to man up and just acquire the best talent, develop a system to maximize their skills and let the chips fall where they may. This force feeding the triangle is nothing more than pacifying Phil's ego in an attempt to validate his precious offensive system.

The only people out-of-touch are those who still think free-agency isn't heavily weighed in favor of the home team. Nobody worth having is leaving home without a bus ticket.

Phil can throw darts til he's a hundred years old and that won't change a thing.

Jeff has tweaked the Triangle more in the direction of how the Warriors play. Using more Spread PnR/Drag Screens early in the possession. Less stagnant Side Triangle action and keeping things moving! The players EXECUTION matters more than anything. If you have talent and they refuse to buy in then it's gonna look bad.

Can anyone tell me why the Lakers never gave Phil full control? I mean the owners daughter was his better half and he won all those championships. Was it his ego, stubbornness, inability to see the future of the NBA or his lack of experience? Dolan's hose job on fans with yet another starphuck name to deflect his inability to manage the franchise has so many fooled.

HofstraBBall wrote:Two years will go by and we would have wasted 5 years with the Triangle. Defenders will claim it was all worth it. And Phil will be pushing it as the best system ever from the range in Montana.

Can anyone tell me why the Lakers never gave Phil full control? I mean the owners daughter was his better half and he won all those championships. Was it his ego, stubbornness, inability to see the future of the NBA or his lack of experience? Dolan's hose job on fans with yet another starphuck name to deflect his inability to manage the franchise has so many fooled.

The more you talk the more clearly you prove a lack of perspective. The Triangle wasn't the problem. The PLAYERS were the problem. Lack of BUY IN. Lack of effort on defense. RESISTANT attitudes.

Now Phil can build with talent that has the right attitude, dedication to winning and playing as a team. So no this will not be a waste of time!

newyorknewyork wrote:Steph, Klay, Iggy and Draymond weren't superstars when Warriors acquired them. . What Warriors did was add a bunch of multifaceted team players.

If Curry was asked to run the offense the way Nash had to. He would be good but he wouldn't be as good as the Curry we see today.

He is more of a combo guard that makes good decisions than a true PG

. AKA Triangle PG. And because he is combo guard who makes good decisions it opens up the offense as its way too versatile. Rather then having Curry be the one trying to create the offense for a bunch of 3 and D guys. They acquired a bunch of multifaceted players like Klay(Shooter who makes smart decisions), Iggy(utility point forward), Draymond(utility point forward) and let them all play their games of creating easy buckets for each other with player and ball movement. Which are the same principals of the triangle.

And this is the reason why Durant left OKC for the Warriors. He was in love with there style of play. 4 guys that just create for each other.

And its the same principals that should apply to our drafts and moves under the triangle. Acquire as many multifacted team players as possible. And allow them to elevate each other.