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He needs a new trainer. He's not going to get better practicing two bounce dribbles and shooting free throws. Kid has got to get moving. Practice moves going to the basket and footwork in the paint. No reason for him to be doing this drill. It's a waste of time

He should work on all aspects of his game. not just one in particular.
Defense is an area he can work on as well. How about doing some work on lateral speed. To be able to defend the smaller quicker forwards better.

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

nixluva wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

Dirk has only ever been about 245! He's far from a banger. KP seems to be naturally a similar body type. He needs strength more than bulk. He wants to stay quick and agile. KP wants to be a highly skilled guy like Dirk.

Correct. I never remember people trying to turn Dirk into a post guy or make him put on weight. Obviously he filled out after a few years in the league, but that came naturally.

nixluva wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

Dirk has only ever been about 245! He's far from a banger. KP seems to be naturally a similar body type. He needs strength more than bulk. He wants to stay quick and agile. KP wants to be a highly skilled guy like Dirk.

I agree with tige weight thing. Too much emphasis on it. He's going to mature naturally. He's got to improve in his game. Dribbling behind his back around cones is the last thing I want to see a professional athlete doing. He needs to be working on take moves... even he gets the ball we need him to go.... that's all he should be working on. He's got to take that next step

EnySpree wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

Dirk has only ever been about 245! He's far from a banger. KP seems to be naturally a similar body type. He needs strength more than bulk. He wants to stay quick and agile. KP wants to be a highly skilled guy like Dirk.

I agree with tige weight thing. Too much emphasis on it. He's going to mature naturally. He's got to improve in his game. Dribbling behind his back around cones is the last thing I want to see a professional athlete doing. He needs to be working on take moves... even he gets the ball we need him to go.... that's all he should be working on. He's got to take that next step

I'm actually surprised KP hasn't perfected any Up and Under moves or even a reliable Hook. He needs a serious focus on Post Play, which I'm sure he's aware of. Nothing wrong with skills work tho. He's got months to get in work on legit go to moves.

nyknickzingis wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

Dirk has only ever been about 245! He's far from a banger. KP seems to be naturally a similar body type. He needs strength more than bulk. He wants to stay quick and agile. KP wants to be a highly skilled guy like Dirk.

The problem with KP is he has more talent than Dirk. Dirk was more consistent in his application, even younger. KP because he has all these dribbling skills and more guard ability, he likes to stand outside and take tougher shots or not get as good shots.

As Dirk became 22, 23, he really became great at having a couple of areas where he could be automatic from. KP has to find that as well. When I see him work on his ballhandling it does not bother me. But I hope he realizes that Dirk is probably the best style of play for him. And Dirk as he became a consistent all-star was great at having spots on the court he was automatic from. KP is still a little too erratic for my taste, in that he takes too many bad shots. Phil wants him to get closer to the basket. For KP that doesn't mean posting up like Ewing or Hakeem. It means more like Dirk where he's able to get the ball in the mid-range, and free throw line. The shots he can get off from there are much, much easier. The other thing, KP will benefit so much just from playing with a really smart good point. In his 2 years in the league he has played with Jose/Galloway and BJ/Rose/Baker. Of all of them, Baker/Jose/BJ were the ones that actually had some chemistry with him. But the problem there is those three are not seen as a threat from the opposing defense to score. Would love for us to draft a point guard (Or get one) that passes and has a high IQ, but whom also can draw the defensive attention or be a scoring threat. Jose, Ron, Brandon all pass but none of them put any fear in an opposing defense. If we can get a partner for KP who can do that for him and the team, that alone adds a few points and efficiency to his game.

Why limit KP(not sayin that you are) but why cannot he be Dirk with a little handle. If KP has a decent enough handle(ala Toni Kukoc) along with hanving the strength to go on the block....he will be...in the (7 up man voice)..."Unbelievable..haha"

Knixkik wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Would prefer to see him carrying +10 more Lbs and working around the basket/block --- rather than dribbling thru legs away from basket and shooting foul line extended jump shots.

The last thing we want to do is try to make someone into something they are not. I am sure he is spending plenty of time working in the post. I want to see him put on weight, but not force it, rather it come naturally over time. He is 21 years old, and weighs probably 235-240ish. I don't see him long-term being more than 245-250. So he should add those 10 pounds slowly.

Dirk has only ever been about 245! He's far from a banger. KP seems to be naturally a similar body type. He needs strength more than bulk. He wants to stay quick and agile. KP wants to be a highly skilled guy like Dirk.

The problem with KP is he has more talent than Dirk. Dirk was more consistent in his application, even younger. KP because he has all these dribbling skills and more guard ability, he likes to stand outside and take tougher shots or not get as good shots.

As Dirk became 22, 23, he really became great at having a couple of areas where he could be automatic from. KP has to find that as well. When I see him work on his ballhandling it does not bother me. But I hope he realizes that Dirk is probably the best style of play for him. And Dirk as he became a consistent all-star was great at having spots on the court he was automatic from. KP is still a little too erratic for my taste, in that he takes too many bad shots. Phil wants him to get closer to the basket. For KP that doesn't mean posting up like Ewing or Hakeem. It means more like Dirk where he's able to get the ball in the mid-range, and free throw line. The shots he can get off from there are much, much easier. The other thing, KP will benefit so much just from playing with a really smart good point. In his 2 years in the league he has played with Jose/Galloway and BJ/Rose/Baker. Of all of them, Baker/Jose/BJ were the ones that actually had some chemistry with him. But the problem there is those three are not seen as a threat from the opposing defense to score. Would love for us to draft a point guard (Or get one) that passes and has a high IQ, but whom also can draw the defensive attention or be a scoring threat. Jose, Ron, Brandon all pass but none of them put any fear in an opposing defense. If we can get a partner for KP who can do that for him and the team, that alone adds a few points and efficiency to his game.

Why limit KP(not sayin that you are) but why cannot he be Dirk with a little handle. If KP has a decent enough handle(ala Toni Kukoc) along with having the strength to go on the block....he will be...in the (7 up man voice)..."Unbelievable..haha"

The problem is people still want to put players in squares. Center means he must develop his post game and put on weight as highest priorities. It requires a new kind of thinking to get passed this and realize he can be a great center for many different reasons.

People look at size and determine position. However, in today's game when you have 7 footer running off screens...that notion of placing him strictly on block is faded like LBJ hairline....the name of the game....that Herman Edwards said formerly of the NYJ..."U PLAY TO WIN THE GAME"...simple...this can be done in a myriad of ways, but if you a player whose blend of talents are rare in size and shape...you push this to it's potential to win!!!!

KP needs strength but packing on pounds in a hurry is going to impact other parts of his body....to me he is a Unicorn...not a horse......Philly picked the horse...Okafor with #3...we picked the unicorn...stop trying to put him in the Belmont sweepstakes....