At 26 years old KOQ averaged 15ppg, 13rebs, 3.5assists, 3 blocks per/36 mins AND led the team in WS/48

He played in 79 games last year.

And we have Plumlee, Willy, Noah and KP to get minutes there also. Kinda begs the question... whats the point in drafting a young big like Swanigan? Are we shopping KOQ? If we got a pick for him that might be something. He had a very good year and was often a bright spot. If we are developing and working on improving with in we have a player on our own roster trending upward that folks are ignoring. He's slated to make an incredibly cap friendly $4mm next year.

Whats your plan for KOQ?

Plus he has good value with his 150 WS48 and a cheap contract. Teams will make play for him due to that and probably net us a good pick.

yellowboy90 wrote:
I do like O'Quinn and thought he should have played over Seraphin 2 yrs ago but I also think as he age his shortcomings will start to show through. His lack of athleticism has lead him to become a pull and tug to get leverage guy and I am not sure he can keep up his excellent blk rate which pretty much is his only saving grace as a defender. O'Quinn is a good player now though and would be an excellent back up on a playoff team. The Spurs, Blazers, OKC, and even GSW would be nice places for him.

The problem going forward is that Kyle has an opt out after next year and I doubt he will be looking to stay at the same price. Do you really want to lock up a 28 y/o back up on a team who has a long way to go in their rebuild and already has two younger players that play his position? So I think the best option would be to sell high and try to find a younger player on a cost controlled salary.

He is definitely due a raise.

He's from the area - Queens if I recall. He's a lunch pail kind of player - I would see, and I don't know when/if we can, about extending him, at a higher salary but hopefully below 'market'.

No matter how many guys are stars in front of him (KP, Willy, Noah?), you'll always need someone big with toughness off the bench.

yellowboy90 wrote:
I do like O'Quinn and thought he should have played over Seraphin 2 yrs ago but I also think as he age his shortcomings will start to show through. His lack of athleticism has lead him to become a pull and tug to get leverage guy and I am not sure he can keep up his excellent blk rate which pretty much is his only saving grace as a defender. O'Quinn is a good player now though and would be an excellent back up on a playoff team. The Spurs, Blazers, OKC, and even GSW would be nice places for him.

The problem going forward is that Kyle has an opt out after next year and I doubt he will be looking to stay at the same price. Do you really want to lock up a 28 y/o back up on a team who has a long way to go in their rebuild and already has two younger players that play his position? So I think the best option would be to sell high and try to find a younger player on a cost controlled salary.

Sac had both Whiteside and IThomas and let both walk for the reasons you mention letting KOQ go for. I am not even saying your wrong, only talking about the risk. Local product (wants to play here), plays hard, moves the ball... I mean whats his next contract? 4/$50mm? (about $12mm per). I mean arent these the type of guys we want around? Continuity, chemistry... we know these things matter.

Its a very interesting draft. Certainly Willy is the future, Noah you want getting as many minutes as he can, with KP also playing some 5. Plumlee becomes your depth guy. If KOQ can get us first rounder it may be hard to pass up.

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Another consideration for the Knicks: KOQ on last year of deal and there has to be questions about IF they want to keep him. $4.1M is nice, > $10M not so much.

for 15 minutes a game in his current role it doesnt make sense. I guess the question is if you are on the Knicks and you are KOQ what can you do to earn more minutes? I mean he played his way into a rotation that didnt really want him

The main issues with Kyle are things out of his control. He played himself into a larger salary and the Knicks have too much money tied into their bigs. The deal to Noah really took any chances O'quinn had at staying away.

Have to say I was pretty happy with him this year...so I have no issue if we end up keeping him.

yellowboy90 wrote:
I do like O'Quinn and thought he should have played over Seraphin 2 yrs ago but I also think as he age his shortcomings will start to show through. His lack of athleticism has lead him to become a pull and tug to get leverage guy and I am not sure he can keep up his excellent blk rate which pretty much is his only saving grace as a defender. O'Quinn is a good player now though and would be an excellent back up on a playoff team. The Spurs, Blazers, OKC, and even GSW would be nice places for him.

The problem going forward is that Kyle has an opt out after next year and I doubt he will be looking to stay at the same price. Do you really want to lock up a 28 y/o back up on a team who has a long way to go in their rebuild and already has two younger players that play his position? So I think the best option would be to sell high and try to find a younger player on a cost controlled salary.

Jmpasq wrote:Yep the opt out is the problem he is a great contract now paying 12 million a year makes him a lot less valuable

yellowboy90 wrote:
I do like O'Quinn and thought he should have played over Seraphin 2 yrs ago but I also think as he age his shortcomings will start to show through. His lack of athleticism has lead him to become a pull and tug to get leverage guy and I am not sure he can keep up his excellent blk rate which pretty much is his only saving grace as a defender. O'Quinn is a good player now though and would be an excellent back up on a playoff team. The Spurs, Blazers, OKC, and even GSW would be nice places for him.

The problem going forward is that Kyle has an opt out after next year and I doubt he will be looking to stay at the same price. Do you really want to lock up a 28 y/o back up on a team who has a long way to go in their rebuild and already has two younger players that play his position? So I think the best option would be to sell high and try to find a younger player on a cost controlled salary.