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Vmart wrote:This isn't a hard decision at all. Their back up played really well in his absence.

Absolutely---signing Lowry now for 25-30mm will be a disaster.

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Vmart wrote:This isn't a hard decision at all. Their back up played really well in his absence.

Absolutely---signing Lowry now for 25-30mm will be a disaster.

Exactly they know they won't get past the Cavs essentially majority of the playoff teams win now window is closed. The team with the best window right now believe it or not is Washington, Boston and you can add Milwaukee in there. The youth infusion gets them past the Cavs when their window closes.

MS wrote:He was opting out no matter what. They are going to pay him. Can't afford to loose him. He will get 100MM over 4 years or he will sign a 5 year deal with the Sixers.

raptors will make a serious offer. it will be up to kyle if he wants to stay or not. ujiri is about asset retention. letting him walk would mean we would have to seriously consider blowing it all up and i don't think that's the plan. just b/c we aren't championship contenders doesn't mean you tear down a good thing.

if he wants to stay, we'll sign him and then probably move him before his deal is up. letting him walk gives us nothing.

you may laugh at this but ujiri is trying to build a winning franchise/culture like the spurs east albeit at a lower level. 4 full years of about 50 win basketball with some ok playoff success. franchise respected around the league where players actually want to go now and stay. casey will be entering his 7th year coaching us - that's unheard of. keep that going for as long as you can...even if that means getting a title is never gonna happen. think indiana in the mid to late 90's. if lebron goes play baseball, we can get to the finals :)

we looked absolutely terrible vs the cavs and the last 2 w/o lowry was a no chance deal. but we could still beat every other team in the east. maybe our 50 win run is coming up...maybe sooner than expected but if we bring everyone back and make a few tweaks with some internal development, we're right back at 50 wins and 2nd round. we just got caught in the cavs bracket this time around.

getting back to lowry - he can leave if he sees a more appealing situation but from our POV, we will try to re-sign him and i'm going to think derozan type money for 4 years. i would not want to give him 5 years tho.

Nalod wrote:settler.......

djsunyc wrote:so after being so bad for so long...lowry changes the entire complexion of the franchise and you think they're ready to let him go? seriously, he is the main reason the team's fortunes turned around. he is the leader, the heart and the soul of the team.

raptors will make a serious offer. it will be up to kyle if he wants to stay or not. ujiri is about asset retention. letting him walk would mean we would have to seriously consider blowing it all up and i don't think that's the plan. just b/c we aren't championship contenders doesn't mean you tear down a good thing.

if he wants to stay, we'll sign him and then probably move him before his deal is up. letting him walk gives us nothing.

you may laugh at this but ujiri is trying to build a winning franchise/culture like the spurs east albeit at a lower level. 4 full years of about 50 win basketball with some ok playoff success. franchise respected around the league where players actually want to go now and stay. casey will be entering his 7th year coaching us - that's unheard of. keep that going for as long as you can...even if that means getting a title is never gonna happen. think indiana in the mid to late 90's. if lebron goes play baseball, we can get to the finals :)

we looked absolutely terrible vs the cavs and the last 2 w/o lowry was a no chance deal. but we could still beat every other team in the east. maybe our 50 win run is coming up...maybe sooner than expected but if we bring everyone back and make a few tweaks with some internal development, we're right back at 50 wins and 2nd round. we just got caught in the cavs bracket this time around.

getting back to lowry - he can leave if he sees a more appealing situation but from our POV, we will try to re-sign him and i'm going to think derozan type money for 4 years. i would not want to give him 5 years tho.

You just said you were happy with the playoffs as a Raptor fan you still get the playoffs. Instead of giving Lowry the contract you might get someone else.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

djsunyc wrote:so after being so bad for so long...lowry changes the entire complexion of the franchise and you think they're ready to let him go? seriously, he is the main reason the team's fortunes turned around. he is the leader, the heart and the soul of the team.

raptors will make a serious offer. it will be up to kyle if he wants to stay or not. ujiri is about asset retention. letting him walk would mean we would have to seriously consider blowing it all up and i don't think that's the plan. just b/c we aren't championship contenders doesn't mean you tear down a good thing.

if he wants to stay, we'll sign him and then probably move him before his deal is up. letting him walk gives us nothing.

you may laugh at this but ujiri is trying to build a winning franchise/culture like the spurs east albeit at a lower level. 4 full years of about 50 win basketball with some ok playoff success. franchise respected around the league where players actually want to go now and stay. casey will be entering his 7th year coaching us - that's unheard of. keep that going for as long as you can...even if that means getting a title is never gonna happen. think indiana in the mid to late 90's. if lebron goes play baseball, we can get to the finals :)

we looked absolutely terrible vs the cavs and the last 2 w/o lowry was a no chance deal. but we could still beat every other team in the east. maybe our 50 win run is coming up...maybe sooner than expected but if we bring everyone back and make a few tweaks with some internal development, we're right back at 50 wins and 2nd round. we just got caught in the cavs bracket this time around.

getting back to lowry - he can leave if he sees a more appealing situation but from our POV, we will try to re-sign him and i'm going to think derozan type money for 4 years. i would not want to give him 5 years tho.

You just said you were happy with the playoffs as a Raptor fan you still get the playoffs. Instead of giving Lowry the contract you might get someone else.

I don't think they have enough money for a max contract player and it's hard to attract top players to Canada. If they lose Lowry, I think they'd probably still squeeze into the playoffs but there's a legit chance they're just a lottery team.

He isn't a max player and it would be the worst decision since well Melo NTC by Phil. I wouldn't give Lowery a deal it's a huge mistake. Also I don't think Toronto loses a beat going with Joesph.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

djsunyc wrote:so after being so bad for so long...lowry changes the entire complexion of the franchise and you think they're ready to let him go? seriously, he is the main reason the team's fortunes turned around. he is the leader, the heart and the soul of the team.

raptors will make a serious offer. it will be up to kyle if he wants to stay or not. ujiri is about asset retention. letting him walk would mean we would have to seriously consider blowing it all up and i don't think that's the plan. just b/c we aren't championship contenders doesn't mean you tear down a good thing.

if he wants to stay, we'll sign him and then probably move him before his deal is up. letting him walk gives us nothing.

you may laugh at this but ujiri is trying to build a winning franchise/culture like the spurs east albeit at a lower level. 4 full years of about 50 win basketball with some ok playoff success. franchise respected around the league where players actually want to go now and stay. casey will be entering his 7th year coaching us - that's unheard of. keep that going for as long as you can...even if that means getting a title is never gonna happen. think indiana in the mid to late 90's. if lebron goes play baseball, we can get to the finals :)

we looked absolutely terrible vs the cavs and the last 2 w/o lowry was a no chance deal. but we could still beat every other team in the east. maybe our 50 win run is coming up...maybe sooner than expected but if we bring everyone back and make a few tweaks with some internal development, we're right back at 50 wins and 2nd round. we just got caught in the cavs bracket this time around.

getting back to lowry - he can leave if he sees a more appealing situation but from our POV, we will try to re-sign him and i'm going to think derozan type money for 4 years. i would not want to give him 5 years tho.

You just said you were happy with the playoffs as a Raptor fan you still get the playoffs. Instead of giving Lowry the contract you might get someone else.

I don't think they have enough money for a max contract player and it's hard to attract top players to Canada. If they lose Lowry, I think they'd probably still squeeze into the playoffs but there's a legit chance they're just a lottery team.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

djsunyc wrote:so after being so bad for so long...lowry changes the entire complexion of the franchise and you think they're ready to let him go? seriously, he is the main reason the team's fortunes turned around. he is the leader, the heart and the soul of the team.

raptors will make a serious offer. it will be up to kyle if he wants to stay or not. ujiri is about asset retention. letting him walk would mean we would have to seriously consider blowing it all up and i don't think that's the plan. just b/c we aren't championship contenders doesn't mean you tear down a good thing.

if he wants to stay, we'll sign him and then probably move him before his deal is up. letting him walk gives us nothing.

you may laugh at this but ujiri is trying to build a winning franchise/culture like the spurs east albeit at a lower level. 4 full years of about 50 win basketball with some ok playoff success. franchise respected around the league where players actually want to go now and stay. casey will be entering his 7th year coaching us - that's unheard of. keep that going for as long as you can...even if that means getting a title is never gonna happen. think indiana in the mid to late 90's. if lebron goes play baseball, we can get to the finals :)

we looked absolutely terrible vs the cavs and the last 2 w/o lowry was a no chance deal. but we could still beat every other team in the east. maybe our 50 win run is coming up...maybe sooner than expected but if we bring everyone back and make a few tweaks with some internal development, we're right back at 50 wins and 2nd round. we just got caught in the cavs bracket this time around.

getting back to lowry - he can leave if he sees a more appealing situation but from our POV, we will try to re-sign him and i'm going to think derozan type money for 4 years. i would not want to give him 5 years tho.

You just said you were happy with the playoffs as a Raptor fan you still get the playoffs. Instead of giving Lowry the contract you might get someone else.

I don't think they have enough money for a max contract player and it's hard to attract top players to Canada. If they lose Lowry, I think they'd probably still squeeze into the playoffs but there's a legit chance they're just a lottery team.

I'm pretty sure he will be asking for Mike Conley type money even though he is older but he has been a better player than Conley so far.