crzymdups wrote:Ever realize how Dolan accuses anyone he doesn't like of being an alcoholic? Pathological.

Next game hes going to have 6 fans sitting around him with free food

Sign the "Fire Phil and Dolan" petition.

Very sad...very sad.

smackeddog wrote:I don't like dolan, but he didn't freak out- he answered back someone who was being abusive to him, which he is perfectly entitled to do. I wouldn't go up to him and vent because that for me is crossing a line and anyone who does deserves to get called an *******.

I hate this trend where fans think they can offload on players etc then run crying to the media when they get abuse back, it's pathetic.

I agree with your premise that players and owners have the right to defend themselves. But saying "sell the team" is not abusive. Getting in someone's face and calling them an A-hole is. If what was reported is true the reaction was waay overkill based on the action.

smackeddog wrote:I don't like dolan, but he didn't freak out- he answered back someone who was being abusive to him, which he is perfectly entitled to do. I wouldn't go up to him and vent because that for me is crossing a line and anyone who does deserves to get called an *******.

I hate this trend where fans think they can offload on players etc then run crying to the media when they get abuse back, it's pathetic.

"Sell the team" is abusive? Did you grow up in pssy vile? Sorry the correct answer from Dolan there is " sure buy it from me" while it walks into his car. To get into someone's face? He's lucky the guy wasn't 6-4 250 without fear because getting that close= imminent threat if the lawyer tagged him--- he would've been in the right to protect himself. That's the business. -- fans pay money to see the games. Fans have right to be reasonably critical. If he said him you fcking midget sell the team blah blah. Ok then he has a point but simply sell the team is benign and laughable. On top of which he called the man an alcoholic???

Nalod wrote:
What if Trump bought the team? Would that have been better?
What if a new owner wanted to make a splash and had his GM trade picks to "Win now"?
What if the new owner had new uniforms, and even build a new arena (garden lease on top of Penn Station might have to go one day)?
What if the team leveraged it up and did not succeed?
We call that improvement or Change?
Some call it the Nets.

Knicks have an owner who is not afraid to spend money. He hired a big name starphuch president who has not leveraged the future. Team won 17 games, 32 games and so far 30 games this year. All the while, had only 1 first round pick and very low value assets to trade with.
We have two excellent young bigs on the roster. One near all star and a very young ball moving Marc Gasol type who has little playing experience and needs defense footwork help.

This is not the end of the world.

It is the beginning of the new brave world.
But it will be baby steps... and there is no such thing as patient fan. Its oxymoron.

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:
What if Trump bought the team? Would that have been better?
What if a new owner wanted to make a splash and had his GM trade picks to "Win now"?
What if the new owner had new uniforms, and even build a new arena (garden lease on top of Penn Station might have to go one day)?
What if the team leveraged it up and did not succeed?
We call that improvement or Change?
Some call it the Nets.

Knicks have an owner who is not afraid to spend money. He hired a big name starphuch president who has not leveraged the future. Team won 17 games, 32 games and so far 30 games this year. All the while, had only 1 first round pick and very low value assets to trade with.
We have two excellent young bigs on the roster. One near all star and a very young ball moving Marc Gasol type who has little playing experience and needs defense footwork help.

This is not the end of the world.

Nolad--Dolan 16/17 years failure-- a blind monkey would've had better results. Have you looked the costs of buying a ticket from msg? Well the product for many of those 17 years came now where near the value of those tickets fans have still come out for the games and been patient while ultimately just getting ripped off

Can't change that past. I hate the starphuch mentality that has persisted. Mckinsey was paid by Dolan that knicks problems were many but trading picks was a big factor. This is 3 years since. WE have not traded a first round pick.
Dolan is not my favorite person. I won't defend him.
The concept that "anyone is better than Dolan" is no guarantee of success.
I'll take my chances that if the decision making process has changed, then the ensuing results should follow.
Phil has failed because his plan was ambitious for the short term, but it did little to leverage the future. Only Noah's contract. Its also possible Noah gets his body together so its hope still is there.
Its a results driven business but one has to look at the process of decisions. Dolan changed that. It need be noted.

wargames wrote:They should chant in the Garden "sell the team"

+1. That should become a regular pre-game ritual at MSG. Might actually have an impact.