Swishfm3 wrote:Why take a chance on the unknown when you can a "PROVEN NBA PLAYER"? Per the suggested trade that Nalod made (Pick and Rose for Wiggins and Rubio), would that fill needed holes on this Knicks roster and make them better? Or will drafting an unknown but very talented player like J.Jackson, who can't seem to stay out of trouble off the court, the way to go?
And based on that, why would the Timberwolves make this deal in the first place?
The logic has to extend both ways. This is why "Win/Win" trade scenarios are the most practical given actual NBA marketplace values and conditions. This is not a Win/Win proposal, it's a trade no one here would want the Knicks to make if the franchises were in complete reverse ( i.e. a total flip flop of rosters, coaches, draft situation, etc, etc)
If you "flip" the trade around and it still looks like a trade you'd make from the other side, then the deal starts to look feasible.
A "baseline" should be, does anyone on that list
A) Become an instant starter on current Knicks, from a value standpoint
B) Is the player in question, at minimum, able to give replacement level production of the average player at said position
C) Does the player offer exponential value , based on his production versus his rookie salary cost, while factoring in his overall draft position
Tons of those guys listed would be instant starters on the Knicks. Maybe they won't end up in the Hall Of Fame, but if they are better than what the Knick have now, they have value to this roster in an abstract sense.
Never let "great" be the enemy of "good" While it's nice to hit a homerun in every draft, sometimes all you can do is get a pretty good player. Nothing wrong with a pretty good player, esp relative to his draft position. Festus Ezeli won't make the Hall Of Fame, but he is/was a useful big considering his draft position.
What's wrong with getting three Avery Bradley types, three years in a row? Sure, it's not an All Star, but if he can start on the current roster, who cares that he's not an All Star.
If the TWolves offered a trade of Wiggins and Rubio for the Knicks lottery pick and Rose, then sure, make that deal. That's highway robbery of Minnesota. Except the TWolves would NEVER make that deal. You, yourself, gave the reason why, why lose a young established player for a draft risk?
Guys need to recalibrate expectations. You don't need to get a HOF player each and every time you draft. It's nice if you can do it, but you just need guys, to start, who will play defense and real team basketball. Walk, then run.