crzymdups wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is interesting. With all the complaining about the Triangle. Denver has completely gone away from ball dominant guard to pure team ball movement. The starters put up 27 ast amoung the 5 players yesterday. The guards and wings are more shooters who can pass then anything else. They have gone 7-3 over their last 10 games and are now in 8th seed and climbing.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the Triangle. It's the combination of the roster Phil built to run it and the coach he hired to coach it all being terrible fits. We heard he'd be bringing in "Triangle players"... has he brought in any? Rolo? Who he traded? Noah might be one... but will he ever be healthy or good enough to play more than 15min a game? He also plays the same position as KP and Willy, our two building blocks who can't really be on the floor at the same time.
It's about playing the right way for the roster you build, or bringing in the right players for the way you want to play.
I like the way Denver has played... hate to say it, but they've done a better job developing Jokic than we have with KP. Jokic has tied David Robinson for the most triple doubles ever by a center this season.
I would say most of them look like triangle players minus Rose/Melo. KP, Willy, KOQ, Noah, Lance and Lee all look good in that kind of system. You are 100% right however.. and its ironic how Phil once called the Knicks "a clumsy roster" as that is exactly what he build. However at this point I do believe the issue is Melo and Melo+Rose. Neither defend, neither move the ball. Both need to be catered to in some capacity.
As far as the system and the coach the fit is fine. JH basically said we will run the triangle in the half court but he wants to push tempo. Is there any reason the Knicks cant play with speed and attack in transition than go to a triangle set? I mean its no different than what MDA did in SSOL. Once the fast break dries up run a P&R. In our care once the fast break dries up run the triangle sets.
I also think its pretty obvious what the source of Phil's agnst and tweets about Melo were all about. Look at the seq of events:
Phil: Melo is a star and still has another level he can go to
Phil to Melo: Are we moving fast enough for you?
Phil gets Noah, Rose, Lee
Melo holds ball more and plays defense less.
Phil sends out cranky tweets
Hmmm..... 
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