If you're looking for more evidence that the Knicks are committed to running the triangle: team president Phil Jackson was teaching some Knicks guards the offense for about a half hour before an informal team workout yesterday, per league sources. It seems clear that Jackson is intent on running the triangle, as sources with knowledge of the workout told ESPN that he was hands on in instructing the offense with Knicks guards before the workout. Jeff Hornacek has acknowledged that the team has run more often triangle lately. He says he welcomes Jackson's input, but a team president conducting a workout with players is not the norm around the NBA.

Ian Begley, ESPN Staff Writer

I want a system that emphasizes ball movement. I want to watch pretty basketball like Dallas used to play, like GS plays & MDA coaches.

But, not when that system is forced on the team and the coach. That won't work.

CrushAlot wrote:
I agree. I wonder if Sasha and Randle get more minutes now. I think Randle should be getting 15 or more minutes a game. I don't think Sasha should be on the team or have a roster spot at this point but triangle emphasis and Rosen's comments about Sasha could mean Sasha gets more playing time.

I think Sasha plays too hard and is too scrappy of a player for us to play down the stretch. I'd be worried if him, Lance, and O'Quinn are on the court at the same time. That's just too much spirit and effort and grit on the court at once. I'd much rather have lazy guys who won't box out, dive on the ground, fight through picks, sprint back for transition defense receive playing time as would i be okay with unproven rookies getting playing time (Baker, N'Dour, Willy, Randle, Kuz).

I'm being 100% serious, too, by the way. This is what this season has become.

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

yea.. see my comment. Guy's one of the best coaches in pro sports ever and people are worried about him talking to the players. Yes.. its come to this.

First of all he did the same thing last season with Galloway, dwill, grant, and they were gone a couple months later.

Here's another problem why the hell are they not focus on defense, that's the major problem, not the offense.. That's why this team will never go anywhere. Coach the damn team or take a hike, this is just so bad..

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

O.T. Martin did you lose power with the storm? I have been off work the past two days because of the storm. We were without power until about 3:00 pm yesterday.

Im in the city and everything was AOK for me. I know some who lost power for about a day and then on and off for another. I was driving around town yesterday afternoon for errands - big mistake - and there were large areas without stop lights and that absolutely sucked. I think the suburbs were more affected

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

What if Jeff asked Phil? What if Phil and Jeff were talking and the topic came up and Phil volunteered?

One of the best ****ing coaches of all time and people have a problem with him dipping into practice to run a few sets? What is wrong with this? Are we so jaded?

O.T. Martin did you lose power with the storm? I have been off work the past two days because of the storm. We were without power until about 3:00 pm yesterday.

Im in the city and everything was AOK for me. I know some who lost power for about a day and then on and off for another. I was driving around town yesterday afternoon for errands - big mistake - and there were large areas without stop lights and that absolutely sucked. I think the suburbs were more affected

SupremeCommander wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:So if Randle Baker Lee and guys like that are likely back next year know the offense well it's a bad thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective. Should Jeff be coaching the team without interference? Is Rambis coaching the triangle in practice and the defense not enough for Phil? Should Phil be scouting college players in March instead of teaching the triangle when he has a coach in place and he put his best friend on the staff as the top assistant?

While I agree with you in principle, I am okay with seeing how this plays out. For better or worse Phil is here and he happens to be the preeminent expert on the system he wants installed.

I think a big part of his success as a coach was that he had carte blanche and complete freedom to do what it was that he did. So I do get where you're coming form and think that it is beyond ironic that he's denying his coach the one thing that made Phil as successful as he was

OK just a point of clarification here. Phil was not the offensive coach of the Bulls when Phil 1st took over. For MUCH of his career he had Tex Winter teaching the offense and over the years Phil became an expert in the Triangle on his own. But this arrangement with Jeff is the same as it was for Phil at the start!!!