CrushAlot wrote:I think it is because he was going to try and get a 200 million plus extension from Sac.

When has overpaying stopped the Kings before? Everyone on that roster, save Darren Collison (and maybe Rudy Gay, who I've never liked), is well above their paygrade.

Cousins has a ton of talent but he's got some issues that I don't see with Willy and KP. I expect Willy is going to be able to expand his range and KP will improve his post game, which will make them extremely flexible on offense. I see them improving on D as well. I really don't think the negatives of the Traditional Big applies to KP and Willy as much.

nixluva wrote:Willy and KP are a wonderful tandem that should only grow stronger as they develop and improve their games. IMO the key is going to be continuing to add high level 2way, Team Oriented players around them. They are both smart and capable of playing any style IMO.

Cousins has a ton of talent but he's got some issues that I don't see with Willy and KP. I expect Willy is going to be able to expand his range and KP will improve his post game, which will make them extremely flexible on offense. I see them improving on D as well. I really don't think the negatives of the Traditional Big applies to KP and Willy as much.

So you see Willy, KP and O'Quinn chasing swingmen around on the perimeter for some portion of 48 minutes a game?

Knixkik wrote:This deal had a lot of factors but i don't think the value of the traditional big man is one of them. Cousins is a headcase, is essentially on an expiring contract, and is coming from a franchise that teams low-ball because they know how dysfunctional they are. The ironic thing is, that new rule in the CBA designed to keep star players with their teams was one of the main reasons Cousins finally got traded.

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martin wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think it is because he was going to try and get a 200 million plus extension from Sac.

When has overpaying stopped the Kings before? Everyone on that roster, save Darren Collison (and maybe Rudy Gay, who I've never liked), is well above their paygrade.

Who? I can't figure that out in this day and salary cap? Maybe a little but certainly not across the board.

You're right, it is not across the board. I meant in the context of free agent signings, since rookie deals are usually reasonable for production. And the Kings have quite a few rookie deals on their roster still.

But Aaron Afflalo at $12.5 million is overpaid, though the lack of length on the contract counteracts it a bit. Third-string extraordinaire, Anthony Tolliver is overpaid at $8 million per for 2. What other team would've paid a career journeyman that? Garrett Temple at $8 million per for 3 years. They've given vet minimim Ty Lawson minutes over him in the aftermath of his contract, which says something given where Lawson currently is in his career. I will say though that Kostas Koufus contract looks solid, I just don't think he ever got a real chance because of Cousins being on the team. But if you take a marco-look at the Vivek era, guys like Rajon Rondo, Marcus Thornton, Carl Landry immediately come to mind.

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

nixluva wrote:Willy and KP are a wonderful tandem that should only grow stronger as they develop and improve their games. IMO the key is going to be continuing to add high level 2way, Team Oriented players around them. They are both smart and capable of playing any style IMO.

Cousins has a ton of talent but he's got some issues that I don't see with Willy and KP. I expect Willy is going to be able to expand his range and KP will improve his post game, which will make them extremely flexible on offense. I see them improving on D as well. I really don't think the negatives of the Traditional Big applies to KP and Willy as much.

So you see Willy, KP and O'Quinn chasing swingmen around on the perimeter for some portion of 48 minutes a game?

You just worried about the stretch 4.... shooting guards playing power fwd like playing nba live online back in the day. Just shoot all the big men in the head and run nothing but swing men all lined up taking 3s

Yeah, which is what most playoff teams are increasingly doing.

NardDogNation wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

nixluva wrote:Willy and KP are a wonderful tandem that should only grow stronger as they develop and improve their games. IMO the key is going to be continuing to add high level 2way, Team Oriented players around them. They are both smart and capable of playing any style IMO.

Cousins has a ton of talent but he's got some issues that I don't see with Willy and KP. I expect Willy is going to be able to expand his range and KP will improve his post game, which will make them extremely flexible on offense. I see them improving on D as well. I really don't think the negatives of the Traditional Big applies to KP and Willy as much.

So you see Willy, KP and O'Quinn chasing swingmen around on the perimeter for some portion of 48 minutes a game?

You just worried about the stretch 4.... shooting guards playing power fwd like playing nba live online back in the day. Just shoot all the big men in the head and run nothing but swing men all lined up taking 3s

Yeah, which is what most playoff teams are increasingly doing.

KP and Willy are not plodding bigs tho! KP can already play away from the basket and Willy is more agile and quick than he looks. They won't be a problem as long as the rest of the roster is upgraded with athletic and quick players!

We already have some roster flexibility and should add more this summer I hope! Getting rid of Rose n Melo would allow better defenders to be brought in and added to the rotation.

nixluva wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

nixluva wrote:Willy and KP are a wonderful tandem that should only grow stronger as they develop and improve their games. IMO the key is going to be continuing to add high level 2way, Team Oriented players around them. They are both smart and capable of playing any style IMO.

Cousins has a ton of talent but he's got some issues that I don't see with Willy and KP. I expect Willy is going to be able to expand his range and KP will improve his post game, which will make them extremely flexible on offense. I see them improving on D as well. I really don't think the negatives of the Traditional Big applies to KP and Willy as much.

So you see Willy, KP and O'Quinn chasing swingmen around on the perimeter for some portion of 48 minutes a game?

You just worried about the stretch 4.... shooting guards playing power fwd like playing nba live online back in the day. Just shoot all the big men in the head and run nothing but swing men all lined up taking 3s

Yeah, which is what most playoff teams are increasingly doing.

KP and Willy are not plodding bigs tho! KP can already play away from the basket and Willy is more agile and quick than he looks. They won't be a problem as long as the rest of the roster is upgraded with athletic and quick players!

We already have some roster flexibility and should add more this summer I hope! Getting rid of Rose n Melo would allow better defenders to be brought in and added to the rotation.

The game is played on two ends of the floor and defensively, neither project to be good perimeter defenders.