He drafted Ron Baker and Plumlee is War!!! Signed a seasoned decorated Euro vet in Kuz. Justin Holiday was a nice pick up...

Noah sucks but his spirit off the bench will be invaluable as we move forward with Willy.

Melo is gonna find himself coming off the bench or face settling for a trade. Rose is outta here. Jennings might find himself back on the team for his sheer love of the Knicks alone.

Back to the rebuild.... we are quietly tanking in a deep lottery. We're going to get a good player in this draft. Most likely a starter.

We have the ability to maneuver players like Lee, Lance to get under the cap yet again.

We're coming up fam.

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

He did both. He always wanted Noah on his team and not because of his play. He talked about his work and desire. He didn't turnover the roster. He traded nothing to get Rose... Rose is an expiring. He signed Lee who has cake around the league. He resigned Lance who can be moved fairly easy. Who else did he turn over? Jennings and Holiday are expiring deals. It's Frozen bruh let it go #barz

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

Be honest with yourself.....you and all of us thought we were gonna make the playoffs and he definitely put a team together with more than enough talent to make the playoffs. Some were saying we'd have a shot at 4th or 5th place in the east.

newyorker4ever wrote:

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

Be honest with yourself.....you and all of us thought we were gonna make the playoffs and he definitely put a team together with more than enough talent to make the playoffs. Some were saying we'd have a shot at 4th or 5th place in the east.

I am honest- I was not a fan of the key moves in the off season. I wanted to hold and build with what we had - Lopez, Calderon.

But, yes, I thought this team had enough talent to compete for the last spot. Maybe win 38 games- not unrealistic.

EnySpree wrote:

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

He did both. He always wanted Noah on his team and not because of his play. He talked about his work and desire. He didn't turnover the roster. He traded nothing to get Rose... Rose is an expiring. He signed Lee who has cake around the league. He resigned Lance who can be moved fairly easy. Who else did he turn over? Jennings and Holiday are expiring deals. It's Frozen bruh let it go #barz

Just cause you think a player works hard, you don't spend $72M, not when we had someone who cost less and started 82 games at the center position for us the year before.

franco12 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

He did both. He always wanted Noah on his team and not because of his play. He talked about his work and desire. He didn't turnover the roster. He traded nothing to get Rose... Rose is an expiring. He signed Lee who has cake around the league. He resigned Lance who can be moved fairly easy. Who else did he turn over? Jennings and Holiday are expiring deals. It's Frozen bruh let it go #barz

Just cause you think a player works hard, you don't spend $72M, not when we had someone who cost less and started 82 games at the center position for us the year before.

nobody knew willy would do what he has done, plus the market place, i believe washington was going to give noah even more, he paid the price for him.

dacash wrote:

franco12 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

He did both. He always wanted Noah on his team and not because of his play. He talked about his work and desire. He didn't turnover the roster. He traded nothing to get Rose... Rose is an expiring. He signed Lee who has cake around the league. He resigned Lance who can be moved fairly easy. Who else did he turn over? Jennings and Holiday are expiring deals. It's Frozen bruh let it go #barz

Just cause you think a player works hard, you don't spend $72M, not when we had someone who cost less and started 82 games at the center position for us the year before.

nobody knew willy would do what he has done, plus the market place, i believe washington was going to give noah even more, he paid the price for him.

I watched him and Kuz in the Olympics and right away I knew both would be rotational players easy. I am not the least bit surprise at the way they play. Both would fit seamlessly into the triangle.

Go you tube them both, the skills were there from the jump, Plus NBA 2k usually nails it when it comes to players skills, and they sure did it with both of them.

It's crazy(I was watching inside stuff) how so many NBA players use NBA 2k to scout their opponents.

EnySpree wrote:

franco12 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

He did both. He always wanted Noah on his team and not because of his play. He talked about his work and desire. He didn't turnover the roster. He traded nothing to get Rose... Rose is an expiring. He signed Lee who has cake around the league. He resigned Lance who can be moved fairly easy. Who else did he turn over? Jennings and Holiday are expiring deals. It's Frozen bruh let it go #barz

Just cause you think a player works hard, you don't spend $72M, not when we had someone who cost less and started 82 games at the center position for us the year before.

It was worth a shot. Nobody thought Noah would be his bad. Nobody thought the team would be this bad. We still got Rose contract coming off the books. We got Willy stepping into his role. It's still all good. Not this year but the future is still bright

Phil preserved our picks and actually added picks. He's kept his options open for this summer as well as the trade deadline.

franco12 wrote:Be honest with yourselves - Phil thought we were going to make the play offs. On paper, perhaps we should be. But you don't turnover the roster, make absurd offers to Noah & Lee if you're thinking it's a rebuild.

Be honest about WHERE he was doing this. No other GM before him understood that if they came and tried a rebuild the city, the fans and the pout pout star would run them out the building before you can say "Momma". The ONLY way to rebuild is to first appease the Starworshippers that claim to be Knicks fans but care only about beloved bum. Hiring Rose and Noah got that done. Everyone thought this was going to be a playoff team. Instead we proved that you can't really win with Melo, AGAIN.
Now he needs to move Melo off the books and let Rose walk or trade him for picks. Noah was a bonehead move, but one we can live through. Noah doesn't kill the offense to shoot 6 -23.