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Vmart
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11/18/2016  8:56 AM
This guy has been disappointing. One game he shows up and others you don't even notice him. The lack of consistency from him amazes me. The Knicks need to get a sg badly. Someone who does defense and scoring. Is there a good fit out there?

We are getting close to the 20 game mark hoping this team can get to .500 mark by then.

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11/18/2016  10:03 AM
Courtney Lee is playing like he always has. He was never a scorer. He's always had great percentages though. That's the problem with him because you can't assume if he takes more shots he'll make more. He's a glue guy. We need him. You just can't put heavy expectations on him.

My perspective with the guy is when he's pushing the ball up good things are going to happen. He's looking to give it up, but he will pull up or drive. He's a positive player to have mixed around KP, rose and Melo.

Key with having Courtney is you need a scorer to back him up. I'm glad Holiday is stepping up into that roll.

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11/18/2016  10:04 AM
Courtney Lee is a guy who is going to look good when all our other starters are playing well. Considering Noah took the preseason off and Rose was with handlebars, that really hasn't held true too often
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11/18/2016  11:01 AM
I'm more disappointed in his defense. I figured offensively he'd be hot and cold.
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11/18/2016  11:04 AM
I like him- he is what he is and will look like a good, competent role player when we're winning, and non-existent when losing- not all of your starters need to be all stars.
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11/18/2016  7:15 PM
He's had some games where he'd be better than I thought and some where he's been worse. Kinda like Afflalo.

The defense is a disappointment, but that's a team thing. Our team concept sucks. When Melo, KP, and Noah are the frontcourt - Lee is the only guy quick enough to guard his position. Rose has been terrible on D, which I admit is something of a surprise to me.

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11/20/2016  11:38 AM
My feeling is that we need a better distributer from that position. I can see Baker taking that position soon. Lee might be better off the bench and asked to fill an instant offense role. I think he might thrive in the second unit.
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11/20/2016  1:43 PM
Against the Hawks CLee and DRose are finally defending and moving the ball. Best overall effort I've seen from both guys today. This is what I thought we might get from them.
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11/20/2016  2:56 PM
Vmart wrote:My feeling is that we need a better distributer from that position. I can see Baker taking that position soon. Lee might be better off the bench and asked to fill an instant offense role. I think he might thrive in the second unit.
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11/21/2016  1:02 AM
Lee has been cold at times but he's a good all around player. There is no continuity because there is no system in place and this roster is filled with low iq players.
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11/21/2016  10:24 AM
tj23 wrote:Lee has been cold at times but he's a good all around player. There is no continuity because there is no system in place and this roster is filled with low iq players.

Really? Feel like there is no continuity cause these are new players still trying to get on same page with same type of effort. Roster seems to be filled with decent bbiq players.

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11/21/2016  10:26 AM
Vmart wrote:My feeling is that we need a better distributer from that position. I can see Baker taking that position soon. Lee might be better off the bench and asked to fill an instant offense role. I think he might thrive in the second unit.

Baker is an undrafted rookie. Lee is a vet who is doing what he always has. There is no way to justify a move like that.

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11/21/2016  10:47 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Vmart wrote:My feeling is that we need a better distributer from that position. I can see Baker taking that position soon. Lee might be better off the bench and asked to fill an instant offense role. I think he might thrive in the second unit.

Baker is an undrafted rookie. Lee is a vet who is doing what he always has. There is no way to justify a move like that.

So guys like Starks and Mason should never have gotten a shot. If Baker plays well and creates for other and develops why wouldn't he be a threat for Lee's job. Baker right now doesn't have the experience of Lee but if Lee continues to put of subpar numbers of one decent game followed by 2-3 horrid games. Then you got consider a new direction.

Baker is like having a second PG out there the man can pass and has great instincts with the ball.

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11/21/2016  11:40 AM
Vmart wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Vmart wrote:My feeling is that we need a better distributer from that position. I can see Baker taking that position soon. Lee might be better off the bench and asked to fill an instant offense role. I think he might thrive in the second unit.

Baker is an undrafted rookie. Lee is a vet who is doing what he always has. There is no way to justify a move like that.

So guys like Starks and Mason should never have gotten a shot. If Baker plays well and creates for other and develops why wouldn't he be a threat for Lee's job. Baker right now doesn't have the experience of Lee but if Lee continues to put of subpar numbers of one decent game followed by 2-3 horrid games. Then you got consider a new direction.

Baker is like having a second PG out there the man can pass and has great instincts with the ball.

Guys like Starks and Mason are the exception, not the rule. There is a reason Baker was undrafted. He could easily be out of the league by next season. If he makes it, it's a bonus, but Lee has been a starting SG everywhere he has played for a reason, and should be given that benefit of the doubt.

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11/21/2016  11:51 AM
martin wrote:
tj23 wrote:Lee has been cold at times but he's a good all around player. There is no continuity because there is no system in place and this roster is filled with low iq players.

Really? Feel like there is no continuity cause these are new players still trying to get on same page with same type of effort. Roster seems to be filled with decent bbiq players.

Yeah, of all the problems with this team, BBIQ is pretty low on my list. It's a smart veteran team.

The big issue we have is that we've shown we're best when we go small with KP at the 5 and Melo at the 4 and the roster makeup doesn't really support that.

Think how screwed we'd be right now without Courtney Lee and Justin Holiday. We need at least one more rotational guy at that position - if we were to draft a young star in that role, this team could take off.

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11/21/2016  2:24 PM
Vmart wrote:This guy has been disappointing. One game he shows up and others you don't even notice him. The lack of consistency from him amazes me. The Knicks need to get a sg badly. Someone who does defense and scoring. Is there a good fit out there?

We are getting close to the 20 game mark hoping this team can get to .500 mark by then.

He is putting up a PER of 8.5 --- not good.

I think he's hurt greatly by Rose who is abysmal at actually creating open/easy shots. Rose may be the best penetrating / worst passing/vision pg I've ever seen.

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11/21/2016  2:32 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
Vmart wrote:This guy has been disappointing. One game he shows up and others you don't even notice him. The lack of consistency from him amazes me. The Knicks need to get a sg badly. Someone who does defense and scoring. Is there a good fit out there?

We are getting close to the 20 game mark hoping this team can get to .500 mark by then.

He is putting up a PER of 8.5 --- not good.

I think he's hurt greatly by Rose who is abysmal at actually creating open/easy shots. Rose may be the best penetrating / worst passing/vision pg I've ever seen.

Steph was this way but he had much more diversified offensive game.
Still team aground him suck.
Lee is fine. Rose need to change his game to stay in NY... But I do not think he want and capable of doing this.

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11/22/2016  2:42 AM
martin wrote:
tj23 wrote:Lee has been cold at times but he's a good all around player. There is no continuity because there is no system in place and this roster is filled with low iq players.

Really? Feel like there is no continuity cause these are new players still trying to get on same page with same type of effort. Roster seems to be filled with decent bbiq players.

Like it or not Melo is a low iq player, KP still has a lot to figure out, and Rose and Jennings are complete boneheads. Guys miss simple reads and can't make basic simple rotations or pick up the correct assignment in transition. These are all basic things we aren't doing, particularly the players I mentioned.

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11/22/2016  6:30 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
Vmart wrote:This guy has been disappointing. One game he shows up and others you don't even notice him. The lack of consistency from him amazes me. The Knicks need to get a sg badly. Someone who does defense and scoring. Is there a good fit out there?

We are getting close to the 20 game mark hoping this team can get to .500 mark by then.

He is putting up a PER of 8.5 --- not good.

I think he's hurt greatly by Rose who is abysmal at actually creating open/easy shots. Rose may be the best penetrating / worst passing/vision pg I've ever seen.


Yeah, he's not performing better than what we should be getting from a league min player. He hits 3s but then he's poor at everything else. Even his 2 point shooting has been bad.
We have a very good frontcourt but our backcourt is terrible.
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11/22/2016  10:10 AM
Is it too soon to revisit the whole Afflalo vs. Lee comparison? People couldn't wait to run Afflalo outta town and I never understood that. He had a fine year for us last year. Many standout games. Again, to me anyway, we wanted Afflalo to shoot the ball. Needed him to shoot the ball... Never had a problem with Afflalo looking for his last year at all. I welcomed it...To me, Afflalo's got much more potent offensive skills over Lee. So many people thought Lee would be some monumental upgrade at the 2 for us -- that's pure myth...Both are having mediocre years--I don't even think Afflalo's starting for the Kings at the moment--but I take Afflalo for half the contract over Lee all day (2 yrs/$25mm vs. 4 yrs/$50mm). The grass ain't always greener...
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