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dacash
Posts: 21141 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 10/17/2006 Member: #1179 |
11/16/2016 10:03 PM
from your posts to basketball gods ears
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Nalod
Posts: 72105 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
11/16/2016 11:51 PM
The unicorn is learning to spread his wings.
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
11/17/2016 7:55 AM LAST EDITED: 11/17/2016 8:08 AM
After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP.
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EnySpree
Posts: 44919 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
11/17/2016 8:17 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP. Its not about getting looks.... Kristaps was taking his own looks last night Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
11/17/2016 8:26 AM
We need to keep KP around 30 minutes. I cant justify riding him 40 minutes. Tonight they need to keep him at 26-27 max. He took a whack last night on that alley oop hes going to be hurting this am. This is a slog not a sprint--we need to keep CA and KP closer to 30 minutes.
That said what a great player RIP Crushalot😞
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
11/17/2016 9:38 AM
EnySpree wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP. Well you need those easy buckets to get over 30 pts. It's all part of getting into a groove. Don't dismiss that fact that KP can't be focused on by any defense with so much talent around him. The ball and player movement is opening up so many great scoring opportunities. KP has developed his handle and can't be stopped one on one. Those looks are coming from the space created by having better guards around him. Jeff is effectively spreading teams out and with the better spacing and guards that can penetrate there's no way that teams can stop KP. That's what nyknickzingis is saying. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
11/17/2016 9:40 AM
BRIGGS wrote:We need to keep KP around 30 minutes. I cant justify riding him 40 minutes. Tonight they need to keep him at 26-27 max. He took a whack last night on that alley oop hes going to be hurting this am. This is a slog not a sprint--we need to keep CA and KP closer to 30 minutes. This was a Breakout game for KP. You can't limit his minutes in a game like that. Jeff is no fool. He knows that minutes need to be managed. You can't stifle a performance like KP was having tho. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/17/2016 9:41 AM
nixluva wrote:The two buckets that Rose got late in the 4th were critical in regards to your comment in bold. He was totally alone from 8-9 feet away for an easy toss in. You really need the 3rd scorer and Rose looks great in that role.EnySpree wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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martin
Posts: 80024 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/17/2016 10:09 AM
forgot the url but read this this morn regarding KP:
He did a little bit of everything, and in the process he became the first Knick to score 35 or more before the end of his age-21 season in nearly 70 years. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
11/17/2016 10:13 AM
fishmike wrote:nixluva wrote:The two buckets that Rose got late in the 4th were critical in regards to your comment in bold. He was totally alone from 8-9 feet away for an easy toss in. You really need the 3rd scorer and Rose looks great in that role.EnySpree wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP. Yeah I really have been pleased with the INSTINCTS of the entire team in sensing when they should pass or shoot. They have been passing freely and looking for the teammate that has the best advantage. But when the defense isn't paying attention a guy like Rose can bite them in the ass with timely drives. How much fun is it to see the team's chemistry developing? The cuts off the ball are getting better and they're hitting the cutters better. There was less standing around and looking like a Deer in headlights. They're showing they have a much better idea of what they're trying to do on both ends. It's very heartening to see this team get past the shaky start of the season. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/17/2016 10:13 AM
martin wrote:forgot the url but read this this morn regarding KP:He was having fun out there. His teammates were having fun watching him go off. I think last year we got a glimpse of how good he and Melo are together, but we had troubles getting them on the court together and outside of a good first half from AA and a good 2nd half from Lopez there wasnt much help. Now KP has a year under him, he and Melo are healthy, We have the legit #3 scorer in Rose, rest of the cast is better/deeper and I think we are starting to see the team simply coming together.He did a little bit of everything, and in the process he became the first Knick to score 35 or more before the end of his age-21 season in nearly 70 years. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Knixkik
Posts: 35755 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
11/17/2016 10:17 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:nixluva wrote:Knixkik wrote:He is just incredible. I still can't believe how lucky we got to find our franchise player when we needed it most. This is right. Adding some veteran talent was always the way to go. KP is growing at his own rate, and fortunately, that rate is very fast. But he still doesn't have lot of pressure on him with Melo and Rose. They aren't afraid to handle the criticism either when the team is under performing. We still have no idea what this season will bring, but getting talent this summer was the right idea. We have our draft pick either way, and we will build this team around KP either way. Only difference is he has the ability to decide when its his team, Knicks didn't decide that for him. |
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
11/17/2016 10:52 AM
EnySpree wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:After 22-22 the team last year couldn't compete and it showed. We finished 10-28 to close the season. Many say Noah and DRose were not good moves, yet we are much better than the 10-28 finish this team had. The dribble penetrations and guard skill on this team has helped KP so much. That's why he credits his teammates. He knows he wasn't getting these looks with Galloway, Grant or Calderon last year. And Lopez was a very solid player but most effective as a screen setter or post up player. Noah is like a point guard out there looks to pass the ball and set up his teammates. Again another vet who would facilitate KP. Kristaps frequency of isolating is very low. He's a team ball player. He's a big guy. He's got great shooting guard skills for a player his size, but Jennings and Rose have helped him. Now that the Knicks have guards that can actually be a threat to penetrate a defense, teams leave Kris on screen sets and give him space. If we had the same guards as last year, Kris would still be a better player and doing damage but he would be less effective because teams could stick a guy on him at all times, knowing the guards won't be a threat on drives. I saw a lot of that last year. Nowitzki used to drive teams crazy with Jason Terry, Steve Nash, Nick Van Excel, Jason Kidd. We haven't gotten KP a truly great guard who can shoot, pass and drive (Our 2 PGs can drive and pass but not shooting threats off screens) but what we do have is major improvement. He can make a living now off screen setting up high and just his own motion or movement in the offense. It's fantastic to watch. The game is so much more open now for him. Hornachek, the point guards, is what this kid needed. Not saying he hasn't shown he can create baskets himself, obviously he has improved there as well. I can only imagine what this kid could do with a point guard like Stephen Curry. If Kris sets up high with Curry, I know Curry has a fantastic thing in Golden State, but together they would be unbelievably tough to defend. Rose has helped and so has Jennings, but they can't shoot. So when Kris sets screens they can't maximize that play like a point guard who could shoot could. |