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nixluva
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10/9/2016  11:55 AM
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On Saturday, the Knicks received all of the energy they needed from the point guard position and then some, despite his absence.

The decision to sign with New York was an interesting one from Brandon Jennings. Rose's presence meant that Jennings, a consistent starter and often the primary option in his team's respective offensive scheme over his career, signed up for a role coming off the bench.

Though Rose missed Saturday's game due to off-the-basketball-court obligations, his injury history will likely mean the Knicks will have to depend on Jennings much like a starter at various times. In preseason game number two, New York had a taste of what that could be like.

Jennings' shooting touch was still not present, but that's not what his role on Saturday was about. Instead, he ran the offense with an extra pep in his step and dished off a team-high five masterful assists. With Jennings on the floor, there certainly was no clear lull in the action. He pushed the right buttons for teammates and created easy opportunities. As a result, he boasted a plus/minus of plus-12 (the highest among the starters) in just 14 minutes of play.

Playing his first game at MSG as a Knickerbocker, Jennings had some jitters as well. He was overzealous at times, but his energy nevertheless provided New York with the necessary spark to get things going. Such an ability to get his teammates involved is the type of versatility the Knicks need from him.

While Jennings served as playmaker, Chasson Randle stepped up to provide that necessary scoring boost off the bench. The youngster clearly has similarities in his game to Rose and Jennings, and has undoubtedly been picking up pointers from each one as camp and preseason has continued. Randle played the role of aggressor, attacking the basket again and again.

More impressively, he adjusted to the defense's pressure, pulling back and making shots from deep when driving through the lane wasn't necessarily the best option. As such, he showed tremendous poise on offense. His three steals on the defensive end proved him to be just the type of pest the Knicks need as well.

Randle is proving that he can handle third-string point guard duties with the potential to fill in more, a la Langston Galloway. Rose and Jennings' injury history should be an indication the team needs the young gun to fill that very role.

Seeing Jennings boast an ability run the offense was a huge plus in the victory. Randle's solid play will present the Knicks with a difficult roster decision in the weeks to come. Either way, having to find a spot for a worthwhile talent is a good problem to have.

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/jennings-and-randle-play-roles-to-perfection-in-win/205509804

I feel much better about the Knicks guard situation than I have in a long time. Rose, Jennings, Lee, Randle etc. look like a pretty strong group for how Hornacek wants to play. Pushing the ball and looking for early offense is gonna be huge and we still haven't seen much PnR compared to what you would think will be used. Rather it's been more of the Triangle styled 2 man stuff ie. Drag Screens and Dribble Hand Offs. They demonstrated better execution against the Nets.

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10/9/2016  12:00 PM
Great article. I really want Randle to be on the team. Also, I think Plumlee and N'dour are keepers so creating a spot will be tough. I loved Breen's comment that everybody wantsPlumleee on their team when they scrimmage.
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10/9/2016  12:01 PM
The real test will be against better teams in the regular season. However i agree i really think jennings and lee are gonna help in the backcourt
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10/9/2016  12:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Great article. I really want Randle to be on the team. Also, I think Plumlee and N'dour are keepers so creating a spot will be tough. I loved Breen's comment that everybody wantsPlumleee on their team when they scrimmage.

Rose, Lee, Jennings and Randle are about as good a set of guards as we could hope for at this point IMO. These guys really fit Hornacek's Style. I also like Baker but making this roster is going to be tough. Holiday has looked shaky with his jumper but his length on D is really nice. We don't see all of the practices but I'm sure that's weighing a lot into the roster decisions Hornacek will make.

I really like the energy off the bench. BJ, LT, Randle, Willy, Ndour and Plumlee in particular bring some nice talent and effort. It's actually a nice bench IMO.

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10/9/2016  12:29 PM
The decision on Randle hasn't been a difficult one for a while now. There is a need for guard depth and he has been playing very well since summer league.
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10/9/2016  4:49 PM
I definitely want randle on the team over Baker.
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10/9/2016  5:35 PM
I think we have a lot of options at the bottom of the bench. If there were takers for OQuinn he would be gone. Holiday is getting out played also.

Rose/Jennings/Randle - With injury concerns, I think you have to platoon these three guys. Can't let Randle go. (Gallo who?)
Lee/Vucacic/Baker/Holiday - After Lee its near a toss up here. Baker has had good games while Holiday has been throwing airballs. Not sure the sample size is enough, but I would try and get a handshake with Baker to spend the season in Westchester.
Melo/Kuz - Kuz looks like a player. Nice grab.
KP6/Ndour/OQuinn - Koq is on my endangered species list. His contract is his only ancho, imo. Has to step up his game.
Noah/Billy/Plumlee/Amundson - Hard fouls have resurfaced in NY. Somewhere, Charles Oakley is smiling.

Basically, KOQ and Holiday are my two most at risk players. I'd be looking for a trade partner for one of these guys. Probably have to carry them because of their contracts. So, if I had to guess, Baker ends up in Westchester with his partially guaranteed money even though he is earning a spot. He had a good game though. Good attitude too.

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10/9/2016  5:39 PM
TheGame wrote:I definitely want randle on the team over Baker.

You could see Randle's impact in summer league! He has a very nice Combo Guard game that is perfect for the way Hornacek wants this team to play. The pace and style doesn't change from PG to PG to PG! 😜

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10/9/2016  5:44 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:I think we have a lot of options at the bottom of the bench. If there were takers for OQuinn he would be gone. Holiday is getting out played also.

Rose/Jennings/Randle - With injury concerns, I think you have to platoon these three guys. Can't let Randle go. (Gallo who?)
Lee/Vucacic/Baker/Holiday - After Lee its near a toss up here. Baker has had good games while Holiday has been throwing airballs. Not sure the sample size is enough, but I would try and get a handshake with Baker to spend the season in Westchester.
Melo/Kuz - Kuz looks like a player. Nice grab.
KP6/Ndour/OQuinn - Koq is on my endangered species list. His contract is his only ancho, imo. Has to step up his game.
Noah/Billy/Plumlee/Amundson - Hard fouls have resurfaced in NY. Somewhere, Charles Oakley is smiling.

Basically, KOQ and Holiday are my two most at risk players. I'd be looking for a trade partner for one of these guys. Probably have to carry them because of their contracts. So, if I had to guess, Baker ends up in Westchester with his partially guaranteed money even though he is earning a spot. He had a good game though. Good attitude too.

I agree that KOQ has fallen to the bottom of my depth chart. I'm still holding out on Holiday to see if he can get his jumper going. If not, then he's right there with KOQ. Amundson really isn't needed IMO. The kids have all shown enough IMO to let him go.

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10/9/2016  6:05 PM
It really is nice having guards that can push the pace, penetrate and are faster than their defenders. It's going to be fun watching them. Hope Randle makes the squad. Think he will as Hornacek loves his guards.
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10/9/2016  6:31 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:It really is nice having guards that can push the pace, penetrate and are faster than their defenders. It's going to be fun watching them. Hope Randle makes the squad. Think he will as Hornacek loves his guards.

I can't imagine Hornacek not demanding Randle makes the team. Horny is such a Guard friendly coach, similar to MDA. You have to give him guards and Phil definitely upgraded the guard spots.

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10/9/2016  8:41 PM
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:It really is nice having guards that can push the pace, penetrate and are faster than their defenders. It's going to be fun watching them. Hope Randle makes the squad. Think he will as Hornacek loves his guards.

I can't imagine Hornacek not demanding Randle makes the team. Horny is such a Guard friendly coach, similar to MDA. You have to give him guards and Phil definitely upgraded the guard spots.

The actuarial department of the Knicks should insist Randle makes the team. Jokes aside, the probability of Rose and Jennings combining to miss 20 or more games has to be over 50%, no?

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10/9/2016  8:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:It really is nice having guards that can push the pace, penetrate and are faster than their defenders. It's going to be fun watching them. Hope Randle makes the squad. Think he will as Hornacek loves his guards.

I can't imagine Hornacek not demanding Randle makes the team. Horny is such a Guard friendly coach, similar to MDA. You have to give him guards and Phil definitely upgraded the guard spots.

I wonder if Randle makes the team if he pushes Holiday for the back up two guard minutes as well.
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10/9/2016  10:27 PM
Randle is that dude guys were crying about as far as having a 3rd pg.... potentially Jennings and Randle are our future. Rose could be a stop gap for now. Next year we'd have that option to explore. Gotta let this all play out
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10/9/2016  10:52 PM
EnySpree wrote:Randle is that dude guys were crying about as far as having a 3rd pg.... potentially Jennings and Randle are our future. Rose could be a stop gap for now. Next year we'd have that option to explore. Gotta let this all play out
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10/9/2016  11:18 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Randle is that dude guys were crying about as far as having a 3rd pg.... potentially Jennings and Randle are our future. Rose could be a stop gap for now. Next year we'd have that option to explore. Gotta let this all play out
This.

+1

Randle looks like one of those young solid backup PGs other teams always seem to have and we never do.

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10/10/2016  2:59 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:It really is nice having guards that can push the pace, penetrate and are faster than their defenders. It's going to be fun watching them. Hope Randle makes the squad. Think he will as Hornacek loves his guards.

I can't imagine Hornacek not demanding Randle makes the team. Horny is such a Guard friendly coach, similar to MDA. You have to give him guards and Phil definitely upgraded the guard spots.

I wonder if Randle makes the team if he pushes Holiday for the back up two guard minutes as well.

Was thinking the same thing.

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10/10/2016  6:57 AM
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Randle is that dude guys were crying about as far as having a 3rd pg.... potentially Jennings and Randle are our future. Rose could be a stop gap for now. Next year we'd have that option to explore. Gotta let this all play out
This.

+1

Randle looks like one of those young solid backup PGs other teams always seem to have and we never do.

I keep talking about positivity in this place. We need to speak things into existence. Say what you want but speak positively about it not negatively. You can't ask for something with negative words towards the people in charge especially when the person working is genuine in their work. Food for thought.

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10/10/2016  8:11 AM
EnySpree wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Randle is that dude guys were crying about as far as having a 3rd pg.... potentially Jennings and Randle are our future. Rose could be a stop gap for now. Next year we'd have that option to explore. Gotta let this all play out
This.

+1

Randle looks like one of those young solid backup PGs other teams always seem to have and we never do.

I keep talking about positivity in this place. We need to speak things into existence. Say what you want but speak positively about it not negatively. You can't ask for something with negative words towards the people in charge especially when the person working is genuine in their work. Food for thought.

Positivity is great BUT I think its also important to be honest as well even if its not 100% positive. I mean if there were no criticisms then the knicks would be 82-0
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10/10/2016  10:56 AM
Is there a thread that list:

Who will make the final roster?
Who's on the fence?
And who's definately not going to make the roster? So far, it looks like Baker could be out....

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