This "America First" does not resonate with me. It seems to dehumanize immigrants as lesser humans. This notion that Americans are greater than all and deserve more is some narcissistic bullshyt trump and others are selling.
Basically to get up infront of a bunch of white folk, and say "Those immigrant jobs should be going to blacks and citizen Hispanics" must be all warm and fuzzy to inner city people who are miles from those jobs, and does nothing to address core educational and family issues related to the circle of poverty.

Briggs, you lapped up the sweet nectar of some serious Trump sales pitch that lacks a lot of substance. Im sure his speech about helping minorities makes you feel good about being white and doing well.
There are other avenues to help and feel good.

Educated whites don't like Trump because we like vote for people that are intelligent. Trump is a poser.
Trump brings a refreshing candor and I agree it is time for a non politician to step up as the talent pool like Cruz and Rubio are empty suits without any practical experience, but Trump is not the guy.

Im voting for Hilary because im choosing the country over the republican party. Im also voting for a democratic governor for the state of North Carolina because the republican party in this state is using discriminatory tactics to suppress minority voting, and other rights relating to HB2. I want a split senate and house and I want a Democrat to pick the next 2 Supreme court justices.

Im voting for Hilary because when I watch Trumps speech's and even attended one and saw for myself the ignorant racist rants of a mob against minorities, women and openly hostile to the media it reminded me of what happens when fascist dictators grab power.

Im not saying the country has no problems. This democracy has long been far from perfect but Trumps shyt show is not the answer. Nothing Hilary has done even comes close to Trumps lack of character, business practices, and the lack of coherent details in setting forth policy.

Were is Hilary? The Governer of Louisiana asked both candidates to not visit. To provide security takes away from the states efforts. He even asked Obama to send help, not visit. Trump goes anyway.
We can go on and on.........

Trump is not interested in minorities. He has no history of helping anyone.
I'll take her experience in the senate and as secretary of state on top of her elite education over anything trump has to offer. I don't have to like a candidate to vote for them as I vote to for whats best for our country.

In the end, we are all alone in the voting booth.

What does "cut deals with minorities" mean, specifically?

That means he is going to throw some crumbs to some Uncle Tom African American pastors and say see what I'm doing for "the blacks", why don't the rest of you all come over.
Trump is a bigot who is dividing America. What does it say about you (original poster) who is cool with this type of dog whistle bigotry?

BRIGGS wrote:She never gives interviews--she has no policies. Its come to the point that her game plan is to bash Trump--thats it.

Does seem like she is hiding from press conferences. Like Hope Solo might say: her defensive, let-Trump-dig-his-own-grave-while-I-avoid-gaffes tactic is a bit cowardly. Others might just say it's smart. But to say she has no policies isn't accurate or fair. There are nearly 3 dozen issue positions on her election website. She just had a big speech about drug policy a couple weeks ago. Trump only has a half dozen issues listed on his site.

BRIGGS wrote:Trump is right--exactly what has a democratic President done for African American or Hispanic sin the last 20 years---nothing. If African American blindly vote for Clinton because they are following others they are simply following the same path. If the same path dont complain about the outcome.

Well the best thing Obama did for African-Americans was largely symbolic, but that doesn't mean it isn't important. As with the Kaepernick issue, symbolism is very important. To have a black family in the White House for 8 years and a black man in the top executive office in the land makes a lot of us proud. Something many folks never thought they'd see in their lifetime. Meanwhile, Trump reenters the political realm by obsessing over innuendo and conspiracy theories about his birth certificate. Why would you think that black folks would trust him when he made it his job to undermine this president? A president that has something like 90% approval rating with the black community.

BRIGGS wrote:I think Trump is such a narcissist that he wants to be known as someone who did a good job. This is the time AA and Hispanic leaders should go talk with Trump--because I think the guy will cut deals with minorities to help them and expand the job base. Despite some stupid rhetoric--I think he wanst to do a good job for everyone and its up to some of our minorities over the next 2 months to really think--do I want more of the same or WORSE--or maybe should we try a guy who will sincerely try to help us?

Well you said it yourself: you are a supporter and think he's a narcissist with stupid rhetoric. But us minorities need to get over all that and request an audience with the guy? After that nonsense with the judge born in Indiana, and all his stupid, divisive rhetoric... aren't you answering your own questions on why it's unlikely that ethnic minority voters are going to help you elect this guy?

BRIGGS wrote:Educated wealthy whites dont like Trump--they like status quo--wealthy educated whites who control the media and many jobs--those are the people who right now hold the election in their hands UNLESS minorities stop and think. If African Americans and His panics change their thought process and they have time--I think this guy will do much better for them. And we want to see improvement in the uS--not just for wealthy whites.

Whenever I stop and think about all this nonsense, I get a headache. I really don't understand the appeal of Trump, especially after growing up in the tri-state and hearing about his shenanigans for 30 years.

If he really was about that life, he'd open a factory or mill for his products right in downtown Camden, NJ, and proudly put "Made in the USA" on his branded knick-nacks. But he's really not about that life. So which Trump am I electing into office? The righteous patriot or the slimy real estate marketer?

DrAlphaeus wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:She never gives interviews--she has no policies. Its come to the point that her game plan is to bash Trump--thats it.

Does seem like she is hiding from press conferences. Like Hope Solo might say: her defensive, let-Trump-dig-his-own-grave-while-I-avoid-gaffes tactic is a bit cowardly. Others might just say it's smart. But to say she has no policies isn't accurate or fair. There are nearly 3 dozen issue positions on her election website. She just had a big speech about drug policy a couple weeks ago. Trump only has a half dozen issues listed on his site.

BRIGGS wrote:Trump is right--exactly what has a democratic President done for African American or Hispanic sin the last 20 years---nothing. If African American blindly vote for Clinton because they are following others they are simply following the same path. If the same path dont complain about the outcome.

Well the best thing Obama did for African-Americans was largely symbolic, but that doesn't mean it isn't important. As with the Kaepernick issue, symbolism is very important. To have a black family in the White House for 8 years and a black man in the top executive office in the land makes a lot of us proud. Something many folks never thought they'd see in their lifetime. Meanwhile, Trump reenters the political realm by obsessing over innuendo and conspiracy theories about his birth certificate. Why would you think that black folks would trust him when he made it his job to undermine this president? A president that has something like 90% approval rating with the black community.

BRIGGS wrote:I think Trump is such a narcissist that he wants to be known as someone who did a good job. This is the time AA and Hispanic leaders should go talk with Trump--because I think the guy will cut deals with minorities to help them and expand the job base. Despite some stupid rhetoric--I think he wanst to do a good job for everyone and its up to some of our minorities over the next 2 months to really think--do I want more of the same or WORSE--or maybe should we try a guy who will sincerely try to help us?

Well you said it yourself: you are a supporter and think he's a narcissist with stupid rhetoric. But us minorities need to get over all that and request an audience with the guy? After that nonsense with the judge born in Indiana, and all his stupid, divisive rhetoric... aren't you answering your own questions on why it's unlikely that ethnic minority voters are going to help you elect this guy?

BRIGGS wrote:Educated wealthy whites dont like Trump--they like status quo--wealthy educated whites who control the media and many jobs--those are the people who right now hold the election in their hands UNLESS minorities stop and think. If African Americans and His panics change their thought process and they have time--I think this guy will do much better for them. And we want to see improvement in the uS--not just for wealthy whites.

Whenever I stop and think about all this nonsense, I get a headache. I really don't understand the appeal of Trump, especially after growing up in the tri-state and hearing about his shenanigans for 30 years.

If he really was about that life, he'd open a factory or mill for his products right in downtown Camden, NJ, and proudly put "Made in the USA" on his branded knick-nacks. But he's really not about that life. So which Trump am I electing into office? The righteous patriot or the slimy real estate marketer?

Up until now her best strategy was to lay low and and risk exposing her weaknesses by actually speaking. Like how the DNC followed the RNC of how when Trump is proactive like when he met with law enforcement both Hillary and Obama followed.

I know the dumbing down of America is all part of the plan to turn us into another socialist country but I truly feel we are being underestimated

fishmike wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:She never gives interviews--she has no policies. Its come to the point that her game plan is to bash Trump--thats it.

Does seem like she is hiding from press conferences. Like Hope Solo might say: her defensive, let-Trump-dig-his-own-grave-while-I-avoid-gaffes tactic is a bit cowardly. Others might just say it's smart. But to say she has no policies isn't accurate or fair. There are nearly 3 dozen issue positions on her election website. She just had a big speech about drug policy a couple weeks ago. Trump only has a half dozen issues listed on his site.

BRIGGS wrote:Trump is right--exactly what has a democratic President done for African American or Hispanic sin the last 20 years---nothing. If African American blindly vote for Clinton because they are following others they are simply following the same path. If the same path dont complain about the outcome.

Well the best thing Obama did for African-Americans was largely symbolic, but that doesn't mean it isn't important. As with the Kaepernick issue, symbolism is very important. To have a black family in the White House for 8 years and a black man in the top executive office in the land makes a lot of us proud. Something many folks never thought they'd see in their lifetime. Meanwhile, Trump reenters the political realm by obsessing over innuendo and conspiracy theories about his birth certificate. Why would you think that black folks would trust him when he made it his job to undermine this president? A president that has something like 90% approval rating with the black community.

BRIGGS wrote:I think Trump is such a narcissist that he wants to be known as someone who did a good job. This is the time AA and Hispanic leaders should go talk with Trump--because I think the guy will cut deals with minorities to help them and expand the job base. Despite some stupid rhetoric--I think he wanst to do a good job for everyone and its up to some of our minorities over the next 2 months to really think--do I want more of the same or WORSE--or maybe should we try a guy who will sincerely try to help us?

Well you said it yourself: you are a supporter and think he's a narcissist with stupid rhetoric. But us minorities need to get over all that and request an audience with the guy? After that nonsense with the judge born in Indiana, and all his stupid, divisive rhetoric... aren't you answering your own questions on why it's unlikely that ethnic minority voters are going to help you elect this guy?

BRIGGS wrote:Educated wealthy whites dont like Trump--they like status quo--wealthy educated whites who control the media and many jobs--those are the people who right now hold the election in their hands UNLESS minorities stop and think. If African Americans and His panics change their thought process and they have time--I think this guy will do much better for them. And we want to see improvement in the uS--not just for wealthy whites.

Whenever I stop and think about all this nonsense, I get a headache. I really don't understand the appeal of Trump, especially after growing up in the tri-state and hearing about his shenanigans for 30 years.

If he really was about that life, he'd open a factory or mill for his products right in downtown Camden, NJ, and proudly put "Made in the USA" on his branded knick-nacks. But he's really not about that life. So which Trump am I electing into office? The righteous patriot or the slimy real estate marketer?

probably the best, most thought out and informed post I have read on this topic. Well done.

Fishmike ..
So True !!!