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From the New York Post: Testimony reveals Derrick Rose pressured gang rape accuser into having a foursome
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dk7th
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8/31/2016  2:43 PM
Trial starts October 4th, which is Rose's 28th birthday and the first game of preseason, and he is being sued for around the same amount as his salary for the season. Yeah... this won't be a distraction. This has Alex Rodriguez-level malignant narcissism written all over it.

This makes jumping while passing look like a virtue.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/31/testimony-reveals-derrick-rose-pressured-gang-rape-accuser-into-having-a-foursome/

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8/31/2016  3:12 PM
dk7th wrote:Trial starts October 4th, which is Rose's 28th birthday and the first game of preseason, and he is being sued for around the same amount as his salary for the season. Yeah... this won't be a distraction. This has Alex Rodriguez-level malignant narcissism written all over it.

This makes jumping while passing look like a virtue.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/31/testimony-reveals-derrick-rose-pressured-gang-rape-accuser-into-having-a-foursome/

Wonder who was the front of the train and who was the caboose. If I'm Derrick I always call dibs! Then again maybe he don't mind eskimo bro-ing....GROSS!!!


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8/31/2016  3:19 PM
I am confused. Can someone clarify a couple of things for me?

1) Does an attorney have the right to publish court documents before a trial?
2) Is it illegal to ask someone for a foursome?
3) What is a sex belt?

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8/31/2016  3:30 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
3) What is a sex belt?

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8/31/2016  3:32 PM
No Knicks fan can root for this deviant without feeling a little queasy or morally compromised. It's almost like advocating the behavior. This mess is going to hurt the Knicks morale. Jennings may be the starter by season opener by default, while Rose is excused from the team for "personal reasons." I believe Rose has gang tattoos and perhaps that means gang affiliations? Good stuff
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8/31/2016  3:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/31/2016  3:52 PM
dk7th wrote:No Knicks fan can root for this deviant without feeling a little queasy or morally compromised. It's almost like advocating the behavior. This mess is going to hurt the Knicks morale. Jennings may be the starter by season opener by default, while Rose is excused from the team for "personal reasons." I believe Rose has gang tattoos and perhaps that means gang affiliations? Good stuff

Well he did throw 'em up.

Whether he's active or not, only Rose can say. Either way, it'd be in Derrick and Reggie's best interest to lose Derrick's best friend/manager Randall Hampton if he continues to get into all these legal issues (DUI, falsifying SAT test, or supposed gang rape.)

Typical childhood entourage friend turned manager/personal assistant that's no goooooood.



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8/31/2016  3:57 PM
Check out the text messages that were exchanged between the Rose and his ex on the night in question.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/
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8/31/2016  4:11 PM
I'm not to familiar with the case though I have heard of it. I have to believe that Phil and the Knicks did their own investigation and felt comfortable with Rose innocence before pulling the trigger on the trade.
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8/31/2016  4:44 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:I'm not to familiar with the case though I have heard of it. I have to believe that Phil and the Knicks did their own investigation and felt comfortable with Rose innocence before pulling the trigger on the trade.
Or maybe it was a risk the Knicks were willing to take. Rose has had a very sketchy history of bad acting. If Rose is smart he'll settle well before the season starts. It's not an admission of guilt and he will help his employer by not being a selfish distraction. My bet is he's stupid and drags the Knicks down with him. That's what malignant narcissists do.
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8/31/2016  4:57 PM
dk7th wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:I'm not to familiar with the case though I have heard of it. I have to believe that Phil and the Knicks did their own investigation and felt comfortable with Rose innocence before pulling the trigger on the trade.
Or maybe it was a risk the Knicks were willing to take. Rose has had a very sketchy history of bad acting. If Rose is smart he'll settle well before the season starts. It's not an admission of guilt and he will help his employer by not being a selfish distraction. My bet is he's stupid and drags the Knicks down with him. That's what malignant narcissists do.
if he is innocent why should he settle? Have you read the texts that I posted the link to?
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8/31/2016  5:09 PM
Having a foursome is not illegal. Asking someone to have a foursome is not illegal. It's just bad judgement. Rose set himself up by asking an ex girlfriend.....Whenever you're a known millionaire, you are a target. Whenever you ask an ex girlfriend to have sex with 3 other dudes, you setting yourself up to become a bigger target. So it was bad judgement on Rose. But there's always two sides, and nobody knows if she was willing to have a foursome or not. If she was willing, is that a crime?

There are foursomes, fivesomes, whatever somes.....happening every 5 minutes in this world. Until the details come out, I'm not going to jump to conclusions. Rose set himself up, and for all we know, she joined in and continued with the setup. This happens all the time.....it happened a lot in my college years (it was called a train...not gang rape), so I'm sure it happens all the time on all college campus and grown men / women. But because it's Rose and he's an NBA player, the media jumps all over it. Slow down and wait for the facts. The problem is it's her words versus their words.....And we all know who wins in that situation. Thats why it's Rose's fault because this was all avoidable. Nobody put a gun to his head.

Like Steven A said about Gordon.....put the weeeeeeeed down.

Rose, put your nature back in your pants. Give up those sexual fantasies...

I know he's a shy kid and never had this kind of attention....So he's basically trying to full fill his sexual dreams and probably got away with it before. Lets hope he learns from this and moves on. He comes across as a good kid, surrounded by bad company.

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8/31/2016  6:48 PM
No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
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8/31/2016  7:22 PM
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
Have you read the text messages from that night that I posted the link to?
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8/31/2016  7:27 PM
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/
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8/31/2016  7:32 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

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8/31/2016  9:12 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

Allegedly manipulated text messages published by the defendant's attorney - This is our standard for facts, now?

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meloshouldgo wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

Allegedly manipulated text messages published by the defendant's attorney - This is our standard for facts, now?

Link?
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8/31/2016  9:59 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

Allegedly manipulated text messages published by the defendant's attorney - This is our standard for facts, now?

Link?

its in the link you posted as well as part of the story further in

"Both Sides Accuse Each Other Of Manipulating Texts From Night Of Alleged Rape"

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meloshouldgo wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

Allegedly manipulated text messages published by the defendant's attorney - This is our standard for facts, now?

this is going to get really ugly for him and will become an embarrassment to the knicks franchise and a distraction to the team, unless he pays her a boatload of money. if i am his lawyer i counsel him that he has to do the expedient thing, which vis a vis his team and fellow employees is also the ethical thing: pay her around 5 million before october 4th, or less than 25% of his salary for the season, and move on. if he has the stones he'll do just that. if not he's a punk missing out on an opportunity to build his character.

it is really that simple and will be a good if slightly painful life experience for him.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/31/2016  10:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/31/2016  10:28 PM
sidsanders wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:No he doesn't and painting him as a victim who made an honest mistake is not going to fly with a jury of his peers. He was and is an adult who should man up, pay the woman off before October 4th, put it behind him, and report to his job. It's a charge of sexual assault. Sometimes you need to cut your losses. I'd tell him to pay her 5 million and not look back.
It is a civil case and if you take time to research it a bit I think you would be a little bit slower to condemn the guy. Here is the link again for the text messages exchanged between the two parties. I can't copy and paste them but it isn't too hard to click on a link and do some research before condemning a guy.
http://bossip.com/1303666/bossip-exclusive-will-these-text-messages-clear-derrick-rose-in-rape-case/

crush please stop trying to bring facts into the conversation, they don't fit into dk and chuck's circlejerk

Allegedly manipulated text messages published by the defendant's attorney - This is our standard for facts, now?

Link?

its in the link you posted as well as part of the story further in

"Both Sides Accuse Each Other Of Manipulating Texts From Night Of Alleged Rape"


Oops.
But the accuser’s attorney said the texts were taken out of context and they actually show that she never OK’d them barging into her house and forcing her into group sex, because she was too out of it to respond because the men allegedly drugged her earlier. The alleged victim’s lawyer said that Rose’s text reveal left out messages from Rose and co-defendant Ryan Allen telling the alleged victim to wake up before she said they allegedly broke in and raped her.

Taken out of context is different from manipulated in my opinion. Also, they are time stamped and the content (repeatedly telling Rose she needs him to come to her place, sending his driver back to get him to bring him to her place at 2:09 in the morning etc.) is pretty damaging to the lawyer's client.
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From the New York Post: Testimony reveals Derrick Rose pressured gang rape accuser into having a foursome

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