"With these teams right now, they're saying us and Golden State are the superteams, and they're trying not to build that many superteams, and Adam Silver came out with the statement and this and that," Rose said. "And the expectations I think of us, we just want to win."

nixluva wrote:I saw this and I can understand his optimism. He's been in the gym with some of these guys and they look great right now. Everyone is happy and healthy. They're excited as well. This has to be a very good time for him mentally.

It's this: do you work for the New York Knicks PR department (?)

EnySpree wrote:Kind of a passing comment.....

"With these teams right now, they're saying us and Golden State are the superteams, and they're trying not to build that many superteams, and Adam Silver came out with the statement and this and that," Rose said. "And the expectations I think of us, we just want to win."

Super team? Is that Marbury wearing a Rose mask? Search him for vaseline

Noah is a defensive player of the year and an all-star.
Melo is an all-star and a scoring machine.
Rose is a MVP.
KP may be one of the best 2-way stretch bigs in the game.
Lee is a very good 2-way role player.

However what it comes down to is that isn't 2013. This is 2016. 3 years ago, this team would have been a super team. Probably Rose still views himself, Noah as what they once were. He's allowed to be optimistic. Realistically what you're getting is likely a starting level PG with serious speed, and a good densive Center. That around Melo/KP/Lee/Jennings/Thomas is a heck of a group to work with, But not likely to win more than 50 games, in my opinion. Rose probably still thinks he can be a MVP level player and Noah views himself when healthy as a defensive force. They are allowed to do that, but we should not be so foolish to expect that.

nyknickzingis wrote:I think on paper the talent is there to be a contender. In regards to their name appeal it is there as well.

Noah is a defensive player of the year and an all-star.
Melo is an all-star and a scoring machine.
Rose is a MVP.
KP may be one of the best 2-way stretch bigs in the game.
Lee is a very good 2-way role player.

However what it comes down to is that isn't 2013. This is 2016. 3 years ago, this team would have been a super team. Probably Rose still views himself, Noah as what they once were. He's allowed to be optimistic. Realistically what you're getting is likely a starting level PG with serious speed, and a good densive Center. That around Melo/KP/Lee/Jennings/Thomas is a heck of a group to work with, But not likely to win more than 50 games, in my opinion. Rose probably still thinks he can be a MVP level player and Noah views himself when healthy as a defensive force. They are allowed to do that, but we should not be so foolish to expect that.

Derrick Rose: Knicks roster fits triangle 'to a T'
12:15 PM ET
Ian Begley

Yes, Derrick Rose made news by saying some people have referred to the New York Knicks as one of the NBA's "super teams." He also touched on several subjects that may have more relevance to the coming Knicks season in his recent interview with NBA.com.

Rose, the Knicks' new point guard, said he thinks the club’s personnel fits the triangle offense "to a T."

“Because you have [Carmelo Anthony], you have [Kristaps Porzingis] who can post up a lot. If they was to put me in that position, that would be my first time having an isolation at the elbow, or just having an isolation period. It can work that way,” Rose told NBA.com's Lang Whitaker.

Knicks point guard Derrick Rose believes he, Carmelo Anthony and Kristaps Porzingis are a perfect fit for the triangle offense. Nathaniel S. Butler/NBAE via Getty Images
Rose added that new coach Jeff Hornacek told him the Knicks would add “a lot of pick-and-rolls in there at the top of the key or on the side.” This would be a welcome change for some of the Knicks who played in the offense last season.

Some complained the offense was too slow and predictable last season, and Hornacek has also said he wants the Knicks to increase their pace. Rose should help in that area. New York has been in the bottom third of the NBA in pace over the last two seasons.

“It's really whatever they decide to do, and I have to find my way around it,” Rose said of the Knicks’ offense. “This is the first time I think the triangle will really ever have an athletic point guard in that position. So who knows? All I have to do is make sure my catch-and-shoot is pretty good with this team, and like I said, be prepared.”

To that end, Rose has worked out recently with Porzingis, Brandon Jennings and Sasha Vujacic alongside trainer Rob McClanaghan. Rose said one focus during summer workouts has been on his midrange jump shot, which may be available to him frequently in the triangle offense.

“That's an effective shot for me. A lot of people give it to me,” Rose said. “... In the NBA today, if you can't shoot there's no point in you even being on the floor. So this summer [for me] it's a ton of shots, getting up repetitions. And conditioning, of course -- you look at Cleveland and Golden State, the way they push the ball and play an uptempo-type game, you've got to be conditioned. And it's simple stuff, the fundamentals of the game -- footwork, dribbling, going back to the basics and really just sharpening everything so that when I'm on the floor I'm not thinking about it. I'm getting to my moves and getting to my spots without having to do a lot of dribbling. You look at Kobe [Bryant], he's getting to his spots with purpose. Get to the spots with purpose, putting the defense always on its heels.”

You look at the Knick's talent on paper and if they are playing well in the spring that is a team NOBODY wants to play and most certainly can make a deep run. Knicks could be a Lebron turned ankle from the finals. Or they could be in the lottery again. Time will tell, but they are a more talented team than last year.

At the very worst I expect them to be a .500 team which should certainly satisfy the "incremental improvement" crowd.

EnySpree wrote:Everyone wants to remind us what can happen if things go wrong...

But what if everything goes right?