nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

fishmike wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

nyk4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

crzymdups wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

crzymdups wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

i totally agree about offering RFA's bad contracts, its a real risk. lin didn't have to sign that deal though, if he TRULY wanted to play for the knicks, he would not have signed that deal. bringing that deal back to dolan was the nail in the coffin him staying here. i just wish lin would have called it like it was, which was that he was more interested in getting paid (i don't blame him one iota for that) and not pretending like it was all about staying with the knicks. dude got paid and i dont think anyone here will argue that point of the deal. he tried to make himself look blameless and like the good guy in it - it's not what it was.

nyk4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:**** lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.

how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

i totally agree about offering RFA's bad contracts, its a real risk. lin didn't have to sign that deal though, if he TRULY wanted to play for the knicks, he would not have signed that deal. bringing that deal back to dolan was the nail in the coffin him staying here. i just wish lin would have called it like it was, which was that he was more interested in getting paid (i don't blame him one iota for that) and not pretending like it was all about staying with the knicks. dude got paid and i dont think anyone here will argue that point of the deal. he tried to make himself look blameless and like the good guy in it - it's not what it was.

If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

And it is pretty easy to yell about someone being interested in money... man, if someone in Houston offered me $25M, I'd tell my current job - "yo homes, smell ya later!"

Anyway, it's all in the past, but trying to blame Lin for the fact that the Knicks didn't offer him a deal and Houston did is absurd. It was poor management by the Knicks. Full stop. Anything else is spin that is pretty easy to poke holes in.

Knickoftime wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

Actually no.

Due to the intricacies of restricted free agency, they could not have done that. They didn't have the cap space and he wasn't a full Bird free agent.

CBA rules allowed them to match much more than they had to offer outright. They wanted him to go out there and sign an offer sheet that league rules would allow them to match on purpose.

But he went and go the so-called "poison pill" deal, rather than just a standard one.

Stop inserting facts into the LinLove fest. We all see what a mistake it was not to have Lin here. Remember what great memories he created during the playoffs? Oh wait...