crzymdups wrote:I don't know if I remotely buy that this is for anything other than to show Melo that he's talking to other candidates. No way Mark Jackson would get hired by Phil, IMHO.

I think it would depend on what Mark said when they talk. Most of this is about the personality of the coach and their philosophy on how to deal with the players. Phil has said that he's been more a transformational coach as opposed to Transactional. I would think he's looking for a motivator type to lead the team. Phil isn't worried about the X's and O's as much cuz really there are tons of tactician assistants. The hard part is getting the players to buy in and run thru walls for you and each other.

Phil Jackson has called on one of New York's own to gauge interest in guiding the team's rebuilding process from the sidelines. A source close to the situation told me on Monday that Jackson has reached out to former Golden State Warriors head coach and Knicks point guard Mark Jackson to discuss the Knicks head coaching position.

In what was termed a "generic initial discussion," the Knicks president is exploring several options and plans on interviewing more than a few candidates for the position including Mark Jackson, the former St. John's grad and 1987 Rookie of the Year. Mark Jackson currently is an analyst with ESPN.

I reached out to the Knicks for a comment, but they had not heard anything about this conversation.

It has been widely reported that Phil Jackson preferred to keep Kurt Rambis as head coach, but I'm told the process of filling the current vacancy is "still wide open," with Rambis also as a viable candidate.

"It's no secret [Phil Jackson] and Rambis are good friends," the source said. "He admires Kurt's work ethic."

Before sliding down the bench, Rambis posted a 32-132 record in two seasons with the Minnesota Timberwolves, which followed a 24-13 stint as the Lakers' interim coach in the strike-shortened 1999 season, the same season the Knicks made a run to the NBA Finals.Phil Jackson is on record saying that Rambis is "capable" of handling the Knicks head coaching responsibilities, a comment that many have taken as a recommendation and sign that Rambis will be the man running the day-to-day going forward.

Phil Jackson tweeted out the characteristics of who his next hire will be early in February. Regardless of who ultimately gets the head coaching position, it's fair to say that Rambis could very well be part of the organization moving forward. The coaching hire is a major decision for Phil Jackson, who has failed on the first attempt in Derek Fisher. The two did not leave on the best of terms. One name to keep an eye out for, reported yesterday by Ian Begley of ESPN, is former Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt, who I was told in February told Phil thinks very highly of in terms of basketball acumen.

Other names of potential candidates are Tom Thibodeau, Luke Walton, Brian Shaw and Scott Brooks.

Knicks fans with links to the past would love to see Jackson hire Thibodeau, a defensive-minded specialist who was an assistant coach in New York under current ESPN analyst Jeff Van Gundy from 1996-2004.

It's worth noting that Phil Jackson and Van Gundy had an adversarial relationship during the heated Knicks/Bulls rivalry of the 1990s.

Keith Schlosser, SNY.TV Twitter | Archive

It's interesting to hear Jackson reached out to the former Knicks point guard. Even the conversation itself is telling, because it's evidence that he isn't as married to only committing to someone with triangle experience, as many seem to believe.

Whether or not the former Warriors' coach is the best fit for this squad, however, is up for debate. That said, he knows how to handle New York, its fans, and the pressure that comes along with the task of guiding this team to a successful future. As far as his relationship(s) with Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks' more notable players goes, Jackson was well known (and subsequently praised) for getting along with Stephen Curry and Co. in Golden State. Players love him, which is a huge plus in his favor. After playing with teams like the Knicks and Pacers, Jackson also knows gritty defense and an even tougher mentality on the court leads to big time wins.

Phil Jackson may not be married to someone with triangle familiarity, but he still wants many of the system's fundamentals to be a part of the Knicks' future. One has to wonder how Mark Jackson would embrace that. Would he welcome having Kurt Rambis as an assistant, or would he consider that to be giving his boss too much of an extension of power through association? As coach, the former NBA guard would likely appreciate some leeway to go as he pleases. The Knicks' President hasn't proven he can provide that just yet.

CrushAlot wrote:https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/phil-jackson-reached-out-to-mark-jackson-about-knicks-head-coach-job/171908312
Also, Isola and Tommy D seem to go at it quite a bit on twitter. Isola is bashing this rumor as false saying that MJax wouldn't discuss a job where a coach was in place.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/phil-jackson-reached-out-to-mark-jackson-about-knicks-head-coach-job/171908312
Also, Isola and Tommy D seem to go at it quite a bit on twitter. Isola is bashing this rumor as false saying that MJax wouldn't discuss a job where a coach was in place.

Isola SUCKS! 1st of all Rambis is cool with whatever Phil is doing. You think he isn't already aware of what Phil is thinking and doing? Isola has no clue what Phil and Rambis talk about. Rambis knows he wasn't gonna just get the job and he said as much when he 1st stepped into the head coach spot. Nothing wrong with the team president talking to coaches with an interim coach in place.

For my money, Isola is one of the more honest beat reporters.

Is he hard on the team? Yes.

But guess what, we just had our 7th 50 loss season since trading Ewing. And we had two other seasons with 49 losses.

That's NINE SEASONS with 49 losses since trading Ewing.

NINE, MAN. In 15 years.

To repeat one last time - nine seasons of 49 losses or more in 15 years. NINE.

He's a petty man and has no integrity. I can't wait for the team to improve and have a winning record again so the media can have something positive to write. This is not an easy process and with the NY Media constantly bashing every move its even tougher.

You can't rebuild without some dumb ass rumor designed to cause chaos and try to make Dolan do something stupid. Dolan didn't do the Lowry deal based on media bashing about Dolan getting fleeced. So it shows how the media can negatively influence things.

We lost last year with a purpose. This year the Knicks ended up about where analyst thought. They looked like they would be much better up until the MELO Trip on ref incident. There's a lot of good things going on despite the record.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/phil-jackson-reached-out-to-mark-jackson-about-knicks-head-coach-job/171908312
Also, Isola and Tommy D seem to go at it quite a bit on twitter. Isola is bashing this rumor as false saying that MJax wouldn't discuss a job where a coach was in place.

Isola SUCKS! 1st of all Rambis is cool with whatever Phil is doing. You think he isn't already aware of what Phil is thinking and doing? Isola has no clue what Phil and Rambis talk about. Rambis knows he wasn't gonna just get the job and he said as much when he 1st stepped into the head coach spot. Nothing wrong with the team president talking to coaches with an interim coach in place.

For my money, Isola is one of the more honest beat reporters.

Is he hard on the team? Yes.

But guess what, we just had our 7th 50 loss season since trading Ewing. And we had two other seasons with 49 losses.

That's NINE SEASONS with 49 losses since trading Ewing.

NINE, MAN. In 15 years.

To repeat one last time - nine seasons of 49 losses or more in 15 years. NINE.

He's a petty man and has no integrity. I can't wait for the team to improve and have a winning record again so the media can have something positive to write. This is not an easy process and with the NY Media constantly bashing every move its even tougher.

You can't rebuild without some dumb ass rumor designed to cause chaos and try to make Dolan do something stupid. Dolan didn't do the Lowry deal based on media bashing about Dolan getting fleeced. So it shows how the media can negatively influence things.

We lost last year with a purpose. This year the Knicks ended up about where analyst thought. They looked like they would be much better up until the MELO Trip on ref incident. There's a lot of good things going on despite the record.

How does he have no integrity?

Isn't writing they suck when they suck actually a sign of having integrity?

I don't love his writing... but I wouldn't accuse him of lack of integrity.

Also, saying they lost last year with a purpose is a ridiculous revision. Phil and the team said they'd make the playoffs. Then they imploded and they traded JR and Iman when they 5-37 or something. They were trying to win.

And Dolan didn't do the Lowry deal because he's an idiot who knows nothing about basketball. Which is a big part of why 9 out of the past 15 years we've lost 49 games or more.

I can go back and do an in depth thread on Isola but I don't want to do that right now but I have my reasons for saying what I did. Isola is petty and taking unnecessary shots with zero balance or objectivity. This includes his tweets.

Phil knew he had the pick and could pull the plug. It was a test from day one. Never mind the talk of playoffs. What else should he say at the start of the year? He watched and saw who wasn't a willing learner. Last summer He said he wanted to put in a foundation to build on and at least he knows he has a solid front court. The main issue is solving the backcourt and coach. He also restructured the D League team successfully. He's been adding young prospects and despite not having a lot of picks he's still managed to add young talent. It's a progressive plan.

franco12 wrote:back to Mark Jackson - I'd love to have him here - he really got the players in G State to play hard. Maybe add Rambis to his staff as an asst? Bring in Ewing as an asst? That might help sell seats and cover the bad news when Toronto wins the draft thanks to our stupid owner.

I don't think we need Ewing to sell seats since we sell out every home game already.

newyorker4ever wrote:

sidsanders wrote:https://dailyknicks.com/2016/04/12/knicks-rumors-phil-jackson-reaches-out-to-mark-jackson/

This is the same article i posted in my original post.

indeed. google search links can scare folks away since it looks like a bogus link. and for conspiracy folks, they do not have to click on a google link and be tracked/categorized/etc...