If we can get him on an affordable deal and still sign two other guards, I'd be interested.

Briggs, say we get Conley, DLee, Courtney Lee. You think we'd win more than 35 games?

Conley, Grant, Wroten
C Lee, Galloway
Melo, Lance Thomas, Early
KP, DLee
Rolo, Hernangomez

would still like to try to get another young guard or two on the roster and not convinced Early will stick next season. And maybe another athletic backup big man.

crzymdups wrote:I love DLee... and we do need another serviceable big man. But man alive, do we need guards.

If we can get him on an affordable deal and still sign two other guards, I'd be interested.

Briggs, say we get Conley, DLee, Courtney Lee. You think we'd win more than 35 games?

Conley, Grant, Wroten
C Lee, Galloway
Melo, Lance Thomas, Early
KP, DLee
Rolo, Hernangomez

would still like to try to get another young guard or two on the roster and not convinced Early will stick next season. And maybe another athletic backup big man.

of course we win more than 35 games. Almost impossible not to.

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I love DLee... and we do need another serviceable big man. But man alive, do we need guards.

If we can get him on an affordable deal and still sign two other guards, I'd be interested.

Briggs, say we get Conley, DLee, Courtney Lee. You think we'd win more than 35 games?

Conley, Grant, Wroten
C Lee, Galloway
Melo, Lance Thomas, Early
KP, DLee
Rolo, Hernangomez

would still like to try to get another young guard or two on the roster and not convinced Early will stick next season. And maybe another athletic backup big man.

of course we win more than 35 games. Almost impossible not to.

Yeah, I'm just refering to Briggs saying in another thread if the Knicks added Conley and Courtney Lee they'd only win 35 games.

healthy melo? Don't see how they can't be as good as this year + a PG? I say we win 42-45 games.

The issue is Conley and Melo's long term health. When we got Kidd of course we got much much better but it was a terrible move (though we got lucky)

BRIGGS wrote:How about this for an off season if Affalo walks and we stretch Calderon giving us about 34mm

Pick #1 2017 (top 7) and Jerian Grant to Denver for pick #15 Denzel Valentine
3mm in cash and a future 2 to for picks 43 and 53 Kay Felder/ Derrick Jones or Bryn Forbes

Sign G Allen Crabbe 4 years 36mm(9mm)
Sign F Willy G 3 years 6mm (2mm)
Sign F David Lee 3 years 12mm (4)
Sign G Rajon Rondo 2 years 22mm (11)
Tyler Johnson 3 years 13.5mm(4.5)
Langston Galloway 1 year vet minmum

Line up

C Lopez
F KP
F Melo
G Allen Crabbe
G Rajon Rondo

F David Lee
F Derrick Williams
G Tyler Johnson
G Denzell Valentine
G Kay Felder

C Oquinn
F Willy G
F D Jones
G Tony Wroten
Langston Galloway

ok ... the trade is silly but I can handle the rest of it.

BRIGGS wrote:How about this for an off season if Affalo walks and we stretch Calderon giving us about 34mm

Pick #1 2017 (top 7) and Jerian Grant to Denver for pick #15 Denzel Valentine
3mm in cash and a future 2 to for picks 43 and 53 Kay Felder/ Derrick Jones or Bryn Forbes

Sign G Allen Crabbe 4 years 36mm(9mm)
Sign F Willy G 3 years 6mm (2mm)
Sign F David Lee 3 years 12mm (4)
Sign G Rajon Rondo 2 years 22mm (11)
Tyler Johnson 3 years 13.5mm(4.5)
Langston Galloway 1 year vet minmum

Line up

C Lopez
F KP
F Melo
G Allen Crabbe
G Rajon Rondo

F David Lee
F Derrick Williams
G Tyler Johnson
G Denzell Valentine
G Kay Felder

C Oquinn
F Willy G
F D Jones
G Tony Wroten
Langston Galloway

I'd do that - though I don't think we can trade the 2017 pick.

And I'd much rather have Conley if he wants to come here. But Rondo and Crabbe would be a helluva backcourt upgrade.

BRIGGS wrote:How about this for an off season if Affalo walks and we stretch Calderon giving us about 34mm

Pick #1 2017 (top 7) and Jerian Grant to Denver for pick #15 Denzel Valentine
3mm in cash and a future 2 to for picks 43 and 53 Kay Felder/ Derrick Jones or Bryn Forbes

Sign G Allen Crabbe 4 years 36mm(9mm)
Sign F Willy G 3 years 6mm (2mm)
Sign F David Lee 3 years 12mm (4)
Sign G Rajon Rondo 2 years 22mm (11)
Tyler Johnson 3 years 13.5mm(4.5)
Langston Galloway 1 year vet minmum

Line up

C Lopez
F KP
F Melo
G Allen Crabbe
G Rajon Rondo

F David Lee
F Derrick Williams
G Tyler Johnson
G Denzell Valentine
G Kay Felder

C Oquinn
F Willy G
F D Jones
G Tony Wroten
Langston Galloway

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:How about this for an off season if Affalo walks and we stretch Calderon giving us about 34mm

Pick #1 2017 (top 7) and Jerian Grant to Denver for pick #15 Denzel Valentine
3mm in cash and a future 2 to for picks 43 and 53 Kay Felder/ Derrick Jones or Bryn Forbes

Sign G Allen Crabbe 4 years 36mm(9mm)
Sign F Willy G 3 years 6mm (2mm)
Sign F David Lee 3 years 12mm (4)
Sign G Rajon Rondo 2 years 22mm (11)
Tyler Johnson 3 years 13.5mm(4.5)
Langston Galloway 1 year vet minmum

Line up

C Lopez
F KP
F Melo
G Allen Crabbe
G Rajon Rondo

F David Lee
F Derrick Williams
G Tyler Johnson
G Denzell Valentine
G Kay Felder

C Oquinn
F Willy G
F D Jones
G Tony Wroten
Langston Galloway

maybe win 35 games

Basically this would be KP playing a good deal of 5 and coming out after 5-6 minutes and rotating KP and Lopez at 5. Were not winning a championship next year--but with the addition of a lot of young legs--we will be an exciting up and coming team who can compete with team sand should get better as the year goes on. The only thing missing here is an athletic shot blocker for the next 10 guys--im sure we could do something about that--we dont need Galloway any more.

So basically you have zero faith that phil in his 3RD OFF SEASON can't put together a contender with his resource's, his 11 rings and triangle personality..

I like DLee, but he would be last on the list of things to do, like dead last.

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:How about this for an off season if Affalo walks and we stretch Calderon giving us about 34mm

Pick #1 2017 (top 7) and Jerian Grant to Denver for pick #15 Denzel Valentine
3mm in cash and a future 2 to for picks 43 and 53 Kay Felder/ Derrick Jones or Bryn Forbes

Sign G Allen Crabbe 4 years 36mm(9mm)
Sign F Willy G 3 years 6mm (2mm)
Sign F David Lee 3 years 12mm (4)
Sign G Rajon Rondo 2 years 22mm (11)
Tyler Johnson 3 years 13.5mm(4.5)
Langston Galloway 1 year vet minmum

Line up

C Lopez
F KP
F Melo
G Allen Crabbe
G Rajon Rondo

F David Lee
F Derrick Williams
G Tyler Johnson
G Denzell Valentine
G Kay Felder

C Oquinn
F Willy G
F D Jones
G Tony Wroten
Langston Galloway

maybe win 35 games

Basically this would be KP playing a good deal of 5 and coming out after 5-6 minutes and rotating KP and Lopez at 5. Were not winning a championship next year--but with the addition of a lot of young legs--we will be an exciting up and coming team who can compete with team sand should get better as the year goes on. The only thing missing here is an athletic shot blocker for the next 10 guys--im sure we could do something about that--we dont need Galloway any more.

So basically you have zero faith that phil in his 3RD OFF SEASON can't put together a contender with his resource's, his 11 rings and triangle personality..

I like DLee, but he would be last on the list of things to do, like dead last.

There are teams in the NBA who dont even lose. Either you try to build something without circumventing the process every two years or you suffer, Believe me if I was running the Knicks Carmelo would be gone this offseason even though I know hes the best player on the team right now. Why by the time we have anything hes done--so id rather scoop up now and build--or we regurgitate mediocrity.