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ActionJackson
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2/25/2016  3:46 PM

Remember when they tried to pop off by posting their faces on a billboard across from MSG and telling the world that they were next big thing??? Free Agency came and they splashed around the Russian's cash bringing in some has beens & never was types. How's that plan working out for them....
KG - Still talking sh** just from the BENCH in Minnesota
Paul Pierce - No longer the Truth, now just the 8th man in the Clippers rotation
Derron Williams - In Dallas injured, washed up & still no hair line to speak of
Joe Johnson - Who???

Oh yeah, even Jay-Z bounced after less than 2 years...
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2/25/2016  3:53 PM
Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.
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2/25/2016  3:54 PM
It's disgraceful. Don't forget they traded all their draft picks. Sucks they did this to the first Brooklyn team in like 50 years. As if right now they are screwed for years to come.
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2/25/2016  3:57 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

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2/25/2016  3:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  4:03 PM
JOE JOHNSON RELEASED BY NETS TODAY

This is music to the ears of Celtics fans that are salivating over the lottery bound draft pick that Brooklyn will fork over to Boston this summer. Johnson may be a shell of his former self, but his 11.8 points per game is still the fourth highest average on the team. Brooklyn doesn't have the depth to replace Johnson's minutes with anyone remotely as talented, so cutting bait with him now can only make the team worse in the short-term.

Brooklyn's .263 winning percentage is ahead of only the lowly Philadelphia 76ers in the Eastern Conference and is the fourth worst mark in the league. It's doubtful that anyone will fall behind Philly, while a Los Angeles Lakers team that is 6 games back of the Nets in the loss column will be difficult to catch. However, losing Johnson could be the difference between whether or not they finish behind the sinking Suns, who currently have one more loss than the Nets.

A Johnson buyout has the potential to come with an added bonus for Boston, as they are rumored to be among the teams in the playoff hunt that would pursue him if he becomes available.


Boston has an open roster spot after completing their own buyout negotiations with David Lee, so they will be keeping a sharp eye on the buyout market for veterans that could become available for the stretch run.

While Johnson may be well past his prime, he remains a savvy veteran that could help a playoff team in a supporting role. The Celtics desperately need to add more shooting, so Johnson's 37.1 percent accuracy from behind the arc should be appealing to them. While his overall scoring has dipped this season, he does have 7 games this season where he scored 20+ points, including a season-high 27 points earlier this month.

Boston currently clings to the No. 3 seed in the East, a vital position as it would allow them to avoid the Cleveland Cavaliers until the Conference Finals. Johnson would add another scoring weapon that would help the C's maintain that spot, with the added luxury of watching the Nets sink even lower.

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2/25/2016  3:59 PM
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?
ActionJackson
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2/25/2016  3:59 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Surely even you as a known "Woe is us Melo is the devil & we're all going to Hell " type of fan can at least agree that we are trending up with KP, Cap Room & Dad Melo moving the ball around. Our situation and the Nyets are vastly different my friend, vastly different.
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2/25/2016  4:02 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Surely even you as a known "Woe is us Melo is the devil & we're all going to Hell " type of fan can at least agree that we are trending up with KP, Cap Room & Dad Melo moving the ball around. Our situation and the Nyets are vastly different my friend, vastly different.

KP is our lone saving grace. Melo is about the same status as Joe Johnson albatross contract wise. Guy's another referee's foot away from the IR.
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2/25/2016  4:04 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?

That has nothing to do with my statement. Zero. You are talking about comparing Brooklyn to Knicks situations and who is better off.

Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

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2/25/2016  4:10 PM
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?

That has nothing to do with my statement. Zero. You are talking about comparing Brooklyn to Knicks situations and who is better off.

Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

Well to compare team situations, KP6 aside, they have about $5mill more of cap space to go after the same free agents we'll go after. We have about say $19m, so they have $24m to throw at someone. Both the Nets and Knicks have no 2016 first round pick. Both rosters have Lopezes.

Like I said without KP6, we're not much different in the short term.

I do agree, we have a much better situation in 2017 and 2018 controlling our own 1st round draft picks, so that's a future plus.

In 2016, we're only slightly better overall, but with an obvious ace in the hole(KP).
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2/25/2016  4:11 PM
martin wrote:
Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

+1 or "And 1" as we say on the playground
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2/25/2016  4:12 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
martin wrote:
Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

+1 or "And 1" as we say on the playground

See above response to Martin for correct factual explanation.
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2/25/2016  4:17 PM
the new gm obviously has talent and good insights, probably is a big advanced stat advocate, based on his waiving of bargnani and johnson. clean house of bloated contracts and fool's gold players.

i expect the nets to turn things around in the next couple of years based on these two moves alone.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
ActionJackson
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2/25/2016  4:20 PM
dk7th wrote:the new gm obviously has talent and good insights, probably is a big advanced stat advocate, based on his waiving of bargnani and johnson. clean house of bloated contracts and fool's gold players.

i expect the nets to turn things around in the next couple of years based on these two moves alone.

This sounds suspiciously like Phil showing JR & Shump the door last year.
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ActionJackson wrote:
dk7th wrote:the new gm obviously has talent and good insights, probably is a big advanced stat advocate, based on his waiving of bargnani and johnson. clean house of bloated contracts and fool's gold players.

i expect the nets to turn things around in the next couple of years based on these two moves alone.

This sounds suspiciously like Phil showing JR & Shump the door last year.

perhaps. that was the right thing to do, wasn't it?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/25/2016  4:23 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?

That has nothing to do with my statement. Zero. You are talking about comparing Brooklyn to Knicks situations and who is better off.

Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

Well to compare team situations, KP6 aside, they have about $5mill more of cap space to go after the same free agents we'll go after. We have about say $19m, so they have $24m to throw at someone. Both the Nets and Knicks have no 2016 first round pick. Both rosters have Lopezes.

Like I said without KP6, we're not much different in the short term.

I do agree, we have a much better situation in 2017 and 2018 controlling our own 1st round draft picks, so that's a future plus.

In 2016, we're only slightly better overall, but with an obvious ace in the hole(KP).

DadMelo. You think the Knicks can get a massive haul from Boston, you forgot that. Grant, Gallo, LT all under manageable situations.

KP is a potential franchise player. There is no denying that that is a big chip, you can't underplay that by saying outside of KP we are not much different.

The Nets have BroPez and no picks for like 3 years. Cap space which will attract???

Chuck, you don't need to sugarcoat anything but you do need to start talking truth.

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ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?

That has nothing to do with my statement. Zero. You are talking about comparing Brooklyn to Knicks situations and who is better off.

Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

Well to compare team situations, KP6 aside, they have about $5mill more of cap space to go after the same free agents we'll go after. We have about say $19m, so they have $24m to throw at someone. Both the Nets and Knicks have no 2016 first round pick. Both rosters have Lopezes.

Like I said without KP6, we're not much different in the short term.

I do agree, we have a much better situation in 2017 and 2018 controlling our own 1st round draft picks, so that's a future plus.

In 2016, we're only slightly better overall, but with an obvious ace in the hole(KP).

Just highlighted all the reasons you are wrong about our situation not being much better, as told by you. You are shooting yourself in the foot with these arguments.
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2/25/2016  4:24 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:
martin wrote:
Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

+1 or "And 1" as we say on the playground

See above response to Martin for correct factual explanation.

Oh I saw it, it just seemed like you were back pedaling off of your original statement cause honestly how do you take the #1 factor that separates us (KP the magical Unicorn) and remove it from the equation in order to make your point? that my friend is what they call in mathematics a "false equivalence".
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2/25/2016  4:26 PM
Knixkik wrote:
Just highlighted all the reasons you are wrong about our situation not being much better, as told by you. You are shooting yourself in the foot with these arguments.

It seems like Chuck is getting Bucked

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2/25/2016  4:33 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Usually I can get behind rooting for the pain and suffering from the continuous ineptitude coming the Jersey Swamp Nyets...but I can't.

We're not much better off to talk down on those bottom dwelling losers, unfortunately.

Is that the truth or is that you just sprouting off?

I don't know. Is 24-35 considered good in your circles?

That has nothing to do with my statement. Zero. You are talking about comparing Brooklyn to Knicks situations and who is better off.

Lets talk about the truth Chuck. Just the truth as you so like to say.

Salary cap, records, rosters, future draft picks and which is better and how much better off the Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets are. Everything.

My take is that the Knicks are much better off. They are also under performing right now.

Well to compare team situations, KP6 aside, they have about $5mill more of cap space to go after the same free agents we'll go after. We have about say $19m, so they have $24m to throw at someone. Both the Nets and Knicks have no 2016 first round pick. Both rosters have Lopezes.

Like I said without KP6, we're not much different in the short term.

I do agree, we have a much better situation in 2017 and 2018 controlling our own 1st round draft picks, so that's a future plus.

In 2016, we're only slightly better overall, but with an obvious ace in the hole(KP).


Well your statement didn't say "without KP we're not much better off" you said "we're not much better off" but the truth is we are much better off than the New Jersey Nets. Why do you choose to spend all your time on here hating on everything Knicks?? Give it a break. With Melo we're two years away from being a legit team and guess how many years the New Jersey Nets are away?? A hellz of a lot further off than us.
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