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BRIGGS
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2/25/2016  1:00 AM
Oquinn can step out so he leaves much more open real estate than rolo. Need to further explore this for the team. Oquinn should've earned extra pt for a few games after tonight I'm sure we can incorporate all 3 but kp and oquinn seem to fit better
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2/25/2016  1:03 AM
another thread to find a way to knock rolo
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/25/2016  1:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  1:33 AM
mreinman wrote:another thread to find a way to knock rolo

No it's team based. A smart coach would've rode with oquinn tonight left him out there. We've lost 11-12 and we've been down double digits in all of them We've been getting absolutely killed in the paint. I mean how do you compete at 42-16? The next game I'd go like this

C oquinn
F kp
F ca
G Galloway
G grant

C Lopez
F D Williams
G Affalo
G Calderon


I want to give Williams a shot over lance thomas again LT did not pull down 1 rebound in 32 min not acceptable

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2/25/2016  2:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  7:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:another thread to find a way to knock rolo

No it's team based. A smart coach would've rode with oquinn tonight left him out there. We've lost 11-12 and we've been down double digits in all of them We've been getting absolutely killed in the paint. I mean how do you compete at 42-16? The next game I'd go like this

C oquinn
F kp
F ca
G Galloway
G grant

C Lopez
F D Williams
G Affalo
G Calderon


I want to give Williams a shot over lance thomas again LT did not pull down 1 rebound in 32 min not acceptable

That is unacceptable and very telling of why we blew the game besides Melo playing horribly.

Outrebounded
43-38

KOQ
17pts&6Rebs
Did not play in the 4th

Lance Thomas
1Reb
Played entire 4th

KP
2Rebs
Played the entire 4th

No KOQ
No Rolo

Fireable offenses by Rambis IMHO

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2/25/2016  7:44 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
mreinman wrote:another thread to find a way to knock rolo

No it's team based. A smart coach would've rode with oquinn tonight left him out there. We've lost 11-12 and we've been down double digits in all of them We've been getting absolutely killed in the paint. I mean how do you compete at 42-16? The next game I'd go like this

C oquinn
F kp
F ca
G Galloway
G grant

C Lopez
F D Williams
G Affalo
G Calderon


I want to give Williams a shot over lance thomas again LT did not pull down 1 rebound in 32 min not acceptable

That is unacceptable and very telling of why we blew the game besides Melo playing horribly.

Outrebounded
43-38

KOQ
17pts&6 Rebs
Did not play in the 4th

Lance Thomas
1Reb
Played entire 4th

KP
2Rebs
Played the entire 4th

No KOQ
No Rolo

Fireable offenses by Rambis IMHO

I agree.

Why the heck was KOQ out?? If a guy is hot let him play until he burns out! Someone wondered if it was because Melo did not want to guard George. Who knows.

Also, KP looks a step slow defensively lately. Rookie wall?

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2/25/2016  8:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  8:23 AM
Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.
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Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

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2/25/2016  9:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  9:09 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

If you're talking about 5 guys who give us team wins, we basically need a new roster. OK, we can keep KP for long-term hope but otherwise we need a new roster. It's a silly obsession to single out RoLo in a new thread every day. We're going to be a bad lottery team regardless of the specific rotation.

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2/25/2016  9:11 AM
I like Kyle as the backup center. He is not a better fit next to KP. The simple fact is when a guy is hitting shots he looks good. Jose looked great last night. Kyle looked great last night. If Jose misses half those shots its back to the worst PG in the league and if KOQ has a bad shooting night you want to trade him for a 2nd rounder.
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fishmike wrote:I like Kyle as the backup center. He is not a better fit next to KP. The simple fact is when a guy is hitting shots he looks good. Jose looked great last night. Kyle looked great last night. If Jose misses half those shots its back to the worst PG in the league and if KOQ has a bad shooting night you want to trade him for a 2nd rounder.

whether KOQ is better as a starter next to KP or not, the fact is this team is plummeting and Fisher getting fired hasn't been sufficient to light a fire under them.

I do like KOQ- I don't know that I would start him. Honestly, maybe we should go small and put D Will in place of Rolo.

But, something should happen!

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2/25/2016  10:10 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Oquinn can step out so he leaves much more open real estate than rolo. Need to further explore this for the team. Oquinn should've earned extra pt for a few games after tonight I'm sure we can incorporate all 3 but kp and oquinn seem to fit better

He just played better period. Doesn't matter who was on the floor with him.

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2/25/2016  10:22 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

Include yourself on that list Briggs. Said weeks ago that O'Quinn was in a slump because he wasnt hitting those midrange jumpers like he was earlier in the season. Once he started hitting his jumpers, it opened up the rest of his game like it did last night.

Still doesnt make O'Quinn a better rebounder, low post scoring option, defender, screen setter than Lopez. KP still performs better with Lopez on the floor.

Just admit you got it wrong about Lopez, big time. Better that than having sift through one pouting session after another. I know the mods give you a pass on this, but you're nothing but a garden variety troll now who posts a variation of the same thread almost every day.

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2/25/2016  10:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2016  10:28 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?


Did you notice that no one here agreed with you? Why would you make 26,000 posts in a forum where no one else understands the game?
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Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?


Did you notice that no one here agreed with you? Why would you make 26,000 posts in a forum where no one else understands the game?


you know why briggs does this. it's the reason he makes a thread for every thought he has and the reason he bumps his own years-old threads. he just wants to feel like he knows more basketball than anyone else here. in his fantasy-land he's the gm of an nba team... to bad he's just a guy with a keyboard like the rest of us.

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2/25/2016  1:06 PM
fishmike wrote:I like Kyle as the backup center. He is not a better fit next to KP. The simple fact is when a guy is hitting shots he looks good. Jose looked great last night. Kyle looked great last night. If Jose misses half those shots its back to the worst PG in the league and if KOQ has a bad shooting night you want to trade him for a 2nd rounder.

Whether oquinn makes a shot or not what he is providing the team is spacing. Also I felt he have a toughness down low I have not seen from 1 player. I think the guy can rebound the rock. Rolo is fine coming off bench he basically plays 24 minutes most nights anyway. But I'd like to explore what I saw with oquinn in the next set of games. Of course we won't see it and well have the same tarting 5

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2/25/2016  1:13 PM
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2/25/2016  1:30 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:I like Kyle as the backup center. He is not a better fit next to KP. The simple fact is when a guy is hitting shots he looks good. Jose looked great last night. Kyle looked great last night. If Jose misses half those shots its back to the worst PG in the league and if KOQ has a bad shooting night you want to trade him for a 2nd rounder.

Whether oquinn makes a shot or not what he is providing the team is spacing. Also I felt he have a toughness down low I have not seen from 1 player. I think the guy can rebound the rock. Rolo is fine coming off bench he basically plays 24 minutes most nights anyway. But I'd like to explore what I saw with oquinn in the next set of games. Of course we won't see it and well have the same tarting 5

I'm all for exploring and hoping the KOQ gets betters... but to say that you haven't seen toughness down low from 1 player, you make a mockery of your own thread. Rolo has outplayed KOQ by a wide margin, it's not even close.

KOQ is nowhere near the player Rolo is. Defense, rebounding, toughness, shot blocking. He has better range on jumpshot and a big beard, that's it.

I want to see KOQ played more and for him to succeed. I want him to make a lot less mental errors.

Why is he being compared to Rolo in a positive light?

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GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

Include yourself on that list Briggs. Said weeks ago that O'Quinn was in a slump because he wasnt hitting those midrange jumpers like he was earlier in the season. Once he started hitting his jumpers, it opened up the rest of his game like it did last night.

Still doesnt make O'Quinn a better rebounder, low post scoring option, defender, screen setter than Lopez. KP still performs better with Lopez on the floor.

Just admit you got it wrong about Lopez, big time. Better that than having sift through one pouting session after another. I know the mods give you a pass on this, but you're nothing but a garden variety troll now who posts a variation of the same thread almost every day.

Lopez the second half of the year has been really good he's a solid player. I'm not sure in terms of structure that his perfect fit is with kp starting. Let me go to facts with robin Lopez playing his best ball we've been god awful. It's not Lopez fault it's the balance of the line up it's why we can't-- NOT Lopez the structure of the lineup what exactly is wrong with starting oquinn and giving him 28 minutes while Lopez gets 28 off the bench? When you are boxing someone and your right hand isn't getting through maybe it's time to use the left hook. It's time for some structural changes. And it's not a negative towards Lopez in anyway. It's all about style of play and fit

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2/25/2016  4:01 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

Include yourself on that list Briggs. Said weeks ago that O'Quinn was in a slump because he wasnt hitting those midrange jumpers like he was earlier in the season. Once he started hitting his jumpers, it opened up the rest of his game like it did last night.

Still doesnt make O'Quinn a better rebounder, low post scoring option, defender, screen setter than Lopez. KP still performs better with Lopez on the floor.

Just admit you got it wrong about Lopez, big time. Better that than having sift through one pouting session after another. I know the mods give you a pass on this, but you're nothing but a garden variety troll now who posts a variation of the same thread almost every day.

Lopez the second half of the year has been really good he's a solid player. I'm not sure in terms of structure that his perfect fit is with kp starting. Let me go to facts with robin Lopez playing his best ball we've been god awful. It's not Lopez fault it's the balance of the line up it's why we can't-- NOT Lopez the structure of the lineup what exactly is wrong with starting oquinn and giving him 28 minutes while Lopez gets 28 off the bench? When you are boxing someone and your right hand isn't getting through maybe it's time to use the left hook. It's time for some structural changes. And it's not a negative towards Lopez in anyway. It's all about style of play and fit

Lopez has gotten better month by month and is throwing down games in Feb of 15PPG/10RPG shooting a lightening 63% from the field and you want to bench him because KOQ finally/accidentally put one 19 minute effort together?

Can we just give KOQ more minutes off the bench?

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martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe we should just waive Lopez. I mean, every center in the league fits better than he does. Calderon could probably fill in at the C spot and be a better fit for the team than Rolo actually.

I think so many fans just don't understand the game.the way I see basketball is to put 5 guys together who FIT together and can play a winning style of basketball. I'm not talking about individual achievement. I'm talking a team that wins. When you are 1-11 you must keep an open mind. What I saw with oquinn and kp last night should've explored what's thesis fervency if Lopez Affalo and Calderon come off the bench next game we MUST fix this problem in the paint I liked what I saw last night so why is it a negative against any player to see different combos going together ?

Include yourself on that list Briggs. Said weeks ago that O'Quinn was in a slump because he wasnt hitting those midrange jumpers like he was earlier in the season. Once he started hitting his jumpers, it opened up the rest of his game like it did last night.

Still doesnt make O'Quinn a better rebounder, low post scoring option, defender, screen setter than Lopez. KP still performs better with Lopez on the floor.

Just admit you got it wrong about Lopez, big time. Better that than having sift through one pouting session after another. I know the mods give you a pass on this, but you're nothing but a garden variety troll now who posts a variation of the same thread almost every day.

Lopez the second half of the year has been really good he's a solid player. I'm not sure in terms of structure that his perfect fit is with kp starting. Let me go to facts with robin Lopez playing his best ball we've been god awful. It's not Lopez fault it's the balance of the line up it's why we can't-- NOT Lopez the structure of the lineup what exactly is wrong with starting oquinn and giving him 28 minutes while Lopez gets 28 off the bench? When you are boxing someone and your right hand isn't getting through maybe it's time to use the left hook. It's time for some structural changes. And it's not a negative towards Lopez in anyway. It's all about style of play and fit

Lopez has gotten better month by month and is throwing down games in Feb of 15PPG/10RPG shooting a lightening 63% from the field and you want to bench him because KOQ finally/accidentally put one 19 minute effort together?

Can we just give KOQ more minutes off the bench?

Martin we've lost 11/12 can we change the structure of the SL? What's so horrid ?

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