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dk7th
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2/23/2016  4:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2016  4:19 PM
afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/23/2016  4:22 PM
I don't have an issue with that. I would go with Grant and Jose to start, use AA to score off the bench. Let Grant play through some mistakes
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2/23/2016  5:02 PM
fishmike wrote:I don't have an issue with that. I would go with Grant and Jose to start, use AA to score off the bench. Let Grant play through some mistakes

I just worry about Jose being reluctant to shoot. Two point guards on the floor at the same time has worked well for the Knicks in the past. Gallo, Afflalo off the bench could be a nice look for the second unit. Also, it might be smart to try and have either KP or Rolo at the 5 at all times. O'Quinn/Seraphin aren't rotation players in my opinion.

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2/23/2016  5:27 PM
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

so basically get a new backcourt!

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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2/23/2016  5:30 PM
The thing about moving Jose to SG, especially if he is to start, is that defensively SG's typically run around a million picks all over the court. No way Jose can keep up with players like that. AA runs hard, not smart, but hard all over the place.
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2/23/2016  5:32 PM
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

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2/23/2016  6:00 PM
martin wrote:The thing about moving Jose to SG, especially if he is to start, is that defensively SG's typically run around a million picks all over the court. No way Jose can keep up with players like that. AA runs hard, not smart, but hard all over the place.

it's the lesser of two evils. i'd rather cut down on penetration into the lane and allow jumpshots if given the choice. coincidentally, calderon is a very good shooter and the triangle needs guys who can shoot-- one reason you can't play grant that much just yet. you have to find ways to hide flaws while exploiting strengths. meanwhile galloway is a very good shooter and a better defender than afflalo, who is just not working out, and whose attitude seems to have gone south. galloway can also push the ball, something we have been lacking. how many fast breaks has afflalo run this year?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/23/2016  6:01 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/23/2016  6:25 PM
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

Nah--play Grant Fredette Galloway Early


cut Anthonys minutes significantly and keep KPs minutes to 24. I would increase Lopez to 35 every game as well.

bench Calderon for year

whether we get position 5 or position 10 in the draft who f cares?

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2/23/2016  10:56 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

Nah--play Grant Fredette Galloway Early


cut Anthonys minutes significantly and keep KPs minutes to 24. I would increase Lopez to 35 every game as well.

bench Calderon for year

whether we get position 5 or position 10 in the draft who f cares?

why run lopez into the ground?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/24/2016  8:26 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

Nah--play Grant Fredette Galloway Early


cut Anthonys minutes significantly and keep KPs minutes to 24. I would increase Lopez to 35 every game as well.

bench Calderon for year

whether we get position 5 or position 10 in the draft who f cares?

We have a draft pick this year????

Wow, all this time I've been cursing the dam Bargnani trade for our 2016 1st rounder for nothing it seems.

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2/24/2016  8:30 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

Nah--play Grant Fredette Galloway Early


cut Anthonys minutes significantly and keep KPs minutes to 24. I would increase Lopez to 35 every game as well.

bench Calderon for year

whether we get position 5 or position 10 in the draft who f cares?

We have a draft pick this year????

Wow, all this time I've been cursing the dam Bargnani trade for our 2016 1st rounder for nothing it seems.

Yeah that trade was so terrible that fans are now hoping it was just a nightmare and we still have our pick
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2/24/2016  9:01 AM
ujiri fleeced dolan in the melo trade, left denver for toronto aaaaannnnnd fleeced dolan again with bargnani.

ugh

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/24/2016  9:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2016  9:41 AM
dk7th wrote:ujiri fleeced dolan in the melo trade, left denver for toronto aaaaannnnnd fleeced dolan again with bargnani.

ugh

It you find a sucker why not to ride him all the way to the bank as many times as you can?
Do you remember the Pinocchio story - take this 5 golden coins, plant them in MSG field of fools, and the tree full of golden coins will grow!!! The irony is that the tree did grow and Dolan also laughing at his way to the bank.
He just a man who is sharing the wealth.

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2/24/2016  9:57 AM
dk7th wrote:ujiri fleeced dolan in the melo trade, left denver for toronto aaaaannnnnd fleeced dolan again with bargnani.

ugh

You forget Dolan was so shook by Ujiri's continued fleecing that he outsmarted himself and VETOED the Kyle Lowry trade to New York....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/dolan-blocks-knicks-deal-raptors-lowry-article-1.1546553

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2/24/2016  10:27 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:ujiri fleeced dolan in the melo trade, left denver for toronto aaaaannnnnd fleeced dolan again with bargnani.

ugh

You forget Dolan was so shook by Ujiri's continued fleecing that he outsmarted himself and VETOED the Kyle Lowry trade to New York....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/dolan-blocks-knicks-deal-raptors-lowry-article-1.1546553

I think that Phil vetoed that move. Think he may have already been in the loop.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/24/2016  10:31 AM
At the time there were questions about Kyle Lowrey and either Shump or TJHjr were not hindsight disappointments.
How many draft picks can we provide Toronto anyway?

In the end Lowrey turned up his game and maturity level, but three years ago they were in question.
Dolan was right to veto the trade based what they had to go on at that time.

In hindsight, I would ok unless we don't draft KP because we finished 6th worst last year, and in 2018 what would we have had by then? Lowrey old, Melo old and who did we draft last year?

Time and motion is hard to really project if the trade would have been good for us LONG TERM. This team can't be fixed.
We'll finish about 32 wins which was expected by many. Our back court did not progress.

PHil and Co. have done some good things but we missed this year with Grant and Galloway not progressing as one would have hoped. Its not like they were not given an opportunity!

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2/24/2016  10:31 AM
mreinman wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:ujiri fleeced dolan in the melo trade, left denver for toronto aaaaannnnnd fleeced dolan again with bargnani.

ugh

You forget Dolan was so shook by Ujiri's continued fleecing that he outsmarted himself and VETOED the Kyle Lowry trade to New York....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/dolan-blocks-knicks-deal-raptors-lowry-article-1.1546553

I think that Phil vetoed that move. Think he may have already been in the loop.

Uh no.

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2/24/2016  10:42 AM
Nalod wrote:
PHil and Co. have done some good things but we missed this year with Grant and Galloway not progressing as one would have hoped. Its not like they were not given an opportunity!

Uhm nope. Grant definitely was not given an opportunity and was continually in Fisher's mystery dog house. I guess Grant's girl didn't want to sleep with Fisher too...

Grant started 0 games for the Knicks and averaged 16 minutes in the 53 games he was allowed to cameo in.

It's like the Knicks were trying to compete for a ring with Calderon as starter instead of develop their first round draft pick...JUST STUPIDITY AT ITS HIGHEST.

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2/24/2016  10:44 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
dk7th wrote:afflalo is ranked 36th in defensive real plus minus among starting shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he is a HORRIFIC defender and should not be starting!!

AFFLALO NEEDS TO BE BENCHED AND HAVE HIS MINUTES CUT TO LESS THAN 24 MPG.

calderon is ranked 27th in defensive real plus minus among starting point guards according to espn. he can't stay in front of anyone and he can't fight over picks. moreover he can't lead a fast break.

CALDERON NEEDS TO SLIDE OVER TO THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION.

galloway is ranked 15th in defensive real plus minus among shooting guards who play 24 or more minutes a night according to espn. he has the speed to lead fast breaks.

GALLOWAY NEEDS TO BE INSERTED INTO THE STARTING LINEUP AS THE TRIANGLE POINT GUARD AND PLAY 30 MPG.

by making these simple moves, the front-court players will not be compromised.

This team is broken--nothing will fix it this year.

you have to try, though. i just think hahn's "solution" is a waste of time.

Nah--play Grant Fredette Galloway Early


cut Anthonys minutes significantly and keep KPs minutes to 24. I would increase Lopez to 35 every game as well.

bench Calderon for year

whether we get position 5 or position 10 in the draft who f cares?

We should try to keep Toronto from getting a higher pick considering they are in the division

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