knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I thinks its best if we can get you into a new situation and then making it publically clear as well.

Because we're going to be a lottery team for 25 more yrs. If we trade you melo, we'll become less of an attraction, and all of the focus can go on 21 yr old kp, we want to start with him and build like minni, philli, the kings, you know teams that haven't made the playoffs since social media was envented.

I think he should keep it private, also teams like Minny should be playoff good soon based on talent. Towns is a future MVP, Wiggins is another monster. What cost them so many years was Kahn drafting not great PG's (he skipped over Curry for Flynn for example) as for the Kings they are the new knicks when it comes to dysfunctional management. The only reason they aren't a national joke is they aren't in a market like NY where they would get undue media attention by default. Philly is another joke but they deserve no better. They trade MCW (who for all his flaws was a ROY) and haven't had an equivalent PG yet. In the NBA a common theme is Teams make mistakes that come to haunt them look at us and Barg. Another example for the knicks was when Philly offered Iggy, vucevic, and a pick for Amare right after the Melo deal and Walsh said no. Another would be to let Melo play out his contract here if there is any chance he could waive that NTC and the knicks could get value back for him.

The Knicks should see if they can trade Melo, it should be for a fair (or better than fair) return. Melo's skill level and contract makes his a great contract as long as he's healthy. They should try to get younger guys both in FA, and the draft and look to get a headstart on being the next generation team. The worse thing the knicks could do is become a treadmill team throughout KP's youth and once Melo leaves (or is done) in 2018 be forced to spend more years tanking to get him some help.

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I thinks its best if we can get you into a new situation and then making it publically clear as well.

Because we're going to be a lottery team for 25 more yrs. If we trade you melo, we'll become less of an attraction, and all of the focus can go on 21 yr old kp, we want to start with him and build like minni, philli, the kings, you know teams that haven't made the playoffs since social media was envented.

I don't know what team you've been watching the last few years or how the NBA is developing but we don't need Carmelo. What we need is to get Porzingis stronger without gaining weight and move him to 5 man and build around him. I'm willing to trade Lopez as well and sign Boban M as the primary back up for 1/2 the price. I would really emphasize smart diversified guards gûs who really know how to play are great at ball movementa nd will grow together. I can find cheap secondary 4s and perhaps an undersized but quick 3 rd 5

The focus to me is Galloway Grant and Kp which means I need a LOT of assets and moving Melo and Lopez will bring me both capmspace and assets o need to re develop

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I thinks its best if we can get you into a new situation and then making it publically clear as well.

Because we're going to be a lottery team for 25 more yrs. If we trade you melo, we'll become less of an attraction, and all of the focus can go on 21 yr old kp, we want to start with him and build like minni, philli, the kings, you know teams that haven't made the playoffs since social media was envented.

melo hasnt exactly been a big attraction to free agents to be honest. Not hating just pointing out the fact so far

If you look at it though, has only had 2 opportunities to do so in his career. The first time Denver signed Kmart. Granted it was probably mostly due to money they were able to offer. The 2nd time was this past offseason. Which they could have probably had Monroe but Phil didn't want to over pay. The other FAs resigned for more then the Knicks could offer due to teams having there rights or better situations.

There really isn't enough quality data to go by to determine Melos ability to attract FAs good or bad. We all know 99% of the NBA would love to play with Lebron. Yet the only FA he was ever able to pull in while on the Cavs has been Larry Hughes.

callmened wrote:i agree with BRIGGS overall sentiment. the two sides must meet and figure out how to get rid of melo (and hopefully trade him for assets). Melo is obviously worried about his image when he leaves ny.

in regards to being a lottery team for the next 25 yrs or not attracting free agents...FALSE. when you get young, draft properly then the success comes. Free agents arent gonna come here cuz of melo. if anything melo will leave to joing them

lastly BRIGGS while i do think Rolo will be trade bait (when KP is ready to slide to the 5), i dont understand your fascination with the Boba. lol

Neither way is a slam dunk. Either way elwe need another stroke of luck and things to break our way. Trading Melo doesn't guarantee anything and neither does keeping him. We can sit tight and use our 20mil in cap. And the draft going forward after this season. As well as future cap when Affalo Calderon Williams expire. Or we can trade Melo and try and get a lotto pick and future pick. But again either way the picks have to be hits.

If Grant was a hit right now imagine how different the outlook would be.

nixluva wrote:MELO being here is fine when his knee is feeling good. He's proven that this year. He didn't look right last night and we don't know how his knee will respond. It was expected that he'd experience soreness at some point this year. I'm not sure there's gonna be any good deal if he can't show he can get the knee right at some point the rest of the way. IMO MELO has to have a good stretch at the close of this season in order to be a viable trade piece. Otherwise MELO ain't goin nowhere even if he waived his no trade.

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I thinks its best if we can get you into a new situation and then making it publically clear as well.

Should have traded him to Bulls 2 years ago when he had the chance -- now we are stuck with our leader-less so-called superstar.

Sunday is Melo's 5th year anniversary in NY --- he is expert at leading teams that can't make playoffs, quit at the first sign of competition and make excuses for every bad shot, game and loss.