I would also argue that there is no way that Jimmer is any worse than Jose defensively. In fact, given his age, he would be better than Jose--although he's still a bad defender.

If this is the case, then why not sign him and allow him to play? Am I missing something, or is this a no-brainer. You gain a lot on offense and don't lose anything defensively.

What are your thoughts?

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Hypothetically...if Jimmer replaced Jose as the starter and received his minutes--about 28 a game--what would his offensive production be? I predict that given these minutes Jimmer would easily average 15 points a game and give our offense a huge boost, compared to Jose's 7 points and reluctance to shoot.

I would also argue that there is no way that Jimmer is any worse than Jose defensively. In fact, given his age, he would be better than Jose--although he's still a bad defender.

If this is the case, then why not sign him and allow him to play? Am I missing something, or is this a no-brainer. You gain a lot on offense and don't lose anything defensively.

What are your thoughts?

You lose defensively and offensively there is a reason Jimmer is in the D-League. Any team in the league could sign him and they have not. If the Knicks let Jose go and he could be paid what Jimmer would be paid - there would be plenty of takers.

OldFan wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Hypothetically...if Jimmer replaced Jose as the starter and received his minutes--about 28 a game--what would his offensive production be? I predict that given these minutes Jimmer would easily average 15 points a game and give our offense a huge boost, compared to Jose's 7 points and reluctance to shoot.

I would also argue that there is no way that Jimmer is any worse than Jose defensively. In fact, given his age, he would be better than Jose--although he's still a bad defender.

If this is the case, then why not sign him and allow him to play? Am I missing something, or is this a no-brainer. You gain a lot on offense and don't lose anything defensively.

What are your thoughts?

You lose defensively and offensively there is a reason Jimmer is in the D-League. Any team in the league could sign him and they have not. If the Knicks let Jose go and he could be paid what Jimmer would be paid - there would be plenty of takers.

Evans is down for NO right now...anyone think Jimmer will get called to replace him?

WaltLongmire wrote:

OldFan wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Hypothetically...if Jimmer replaced Jose as the starter and received his minutes--about 28 a game--what would his offensive production be? I predict that given these minutes Jimmer would easily average 15 points a game and give our offense a huge boost, compared to Jose's 7 points and reluctance to shoot.

I would also argue that there is no way that Jimmer is any worse than Jose defensively. In fact, given his age, he would be better than Jose--although he's still a bad defender.

If this is the case, then why not sign him and allow him to play? Am I missing something, or is this a no-brainer. You gain a lot on offense and don't lose anything defensively.

What are your thoughts?

You lose defensively and offensively there is a reason Jimmer is in the D-League. Any team in the league could sign him and they have not. If the Knicks let Jose go and he could be paid what Jimmer would be paid - there would be plenty of takers.

Yup...there have been other guards signed by other teams to 10 contracts...Jimmer got one from the Pelicans and did not stick.

Evans is down for NO right now...anyone think Jimmer will get called to replace him?

Time to consider trading Nose to NO

So here's what I use to interpret them: When San Antonio had to cut Fredette, Popovich went out of his way to say that Fredette did what they wanted him to do . . . but there just wasn't room for him on their (championship-quality) roster.

Fact: Popovich has reputation for not BS-ing.

Fact: Popovich had no reason to BS in this case.

Malcolm wrote:Stats by themselves apparently don't tell us what we want to know about Fredette.

So here's what I use to interpret them: When San Antonio had to cut Fredette, Popovich went out of his way to say that Fredette did what they wanted him to do . . . but there just wasn't room for him on their (championship-quality) roster.

Fact: Popovich has reputation for not BS-ing.

Fact: Popovich had no reason to BS in this case.

Doubt if Popovich would have said anything negative about a player who gave his all but did not measure up.

I can also be cynical and say that he was indicating that Jimmer was not "championship-quality."

If we pick him up and he contributes on both ends of the court...I'll be very happy- just believe that if he was worth it either the Knicks or another team would have picked him up.

WaltLongmire wrote:

Malcolm wrote:Stats by themselves apparently don't tell us what we want to know about Fredette.

So here's what I use to interpret them: When San Antonio had to cut Fredette, Popovich went out of his way to say that Fredette did what they wanted him to do . . . but there just wasn't room for him on their (championship-quality) roster.

Fact: Popovich has reputation for not BS-ing.

Fact: Popovich had no reason to BS in this case.

Doubt if Popovich would have said anything negative about a player who gave his all but did not measure up.

I can also be cynical and say that he was indicating that Jimmer was not "championship-quality."

If we pick him up and he contributes on both ends of the court...I'll be very happy- just believe that if he was worth it either the Knicks or another team would have picked him up.

He know people would do this and use his words to measure if a guy is a nba player or not. He did his best to assure him another nba job. If Pop said he wasn't ready or not what we were looking for he would be a high school coach right now somewhere

crzymdups wrote:If Jimmer were given Jose's minutes I think people would start to realize that Jose does a pretty good job running this offense.

Like Galloway starting while Jose was out wasn't enough

crzymdups wrote:If Jimmer were given Jose's minutes I think people would start to realize that Jose does a pretty good job running this offense.

I think Jose's ability to "run the offense" as an excuse for his putrid defense and non-existent scoring is a bit overstated and lame. In theory, the Triangle offense does not require a true point guard to initiate. In fact, it does not require a point guard at all, hence Ron Harper running the point with the Bulls who was clearly not a point guard (more of a small forward).

EnySpree wrote:Can Jimmer Ferdette run an nba offense? The question is not can Jimmer score. Yes Jimmer can score. He's not in the nba because he can't lead a team and run an offense.

Jose is old. If he made less he would not be here. He can however lead and run a nba team. Again he is old. I would not disrespect the guy just because of that. Yes he needs to go, but we have nobody good enough to flat out overtake him. That is why we aren't chillin in the 7-8 playoff spot right now.

Can Jose run an NBA offense? Please be honest