Step #1: We absolutely need to upgrade Calderon. At the very least we need a talented athlete to take his minutes away at pg. A guy like Wroten who's dangling waiting for Phil to figure out what he wants to do. It could be Jimmer too, but Wroten size and defense trump whatever Jimmer can do for us right now.

Step #2: There can only be one backup behind Melo. Either Derrick Williams or Lance Thomas. Cleananthony is almost ready to make his way back to the court so the Knicks can stand to lose Lance or Derrick.

Step #3: There can only be one backup big. Either Seraphin or o'quinn has to go. Seraphin is the better post scorer. I think their defense and rebounding are a wash between the two. Seraphin should be our guy. We have Lou Amundson at the end of the bench so wed be good with depth.

That leaves o'quinn, and possibly Derrick Williams as trade chips. We don't have time to baby Grant so I would add him to that mix. Who can we get in return? Again that's a matter of calming down and seeing what we have and what we need.

Pf: KP
Sf: Melo
c : Rolo
pg: Wroten
sg: Afflalo

first big of the bench: Seraphin
first guard off the bench: Galloway
back up pg: Calderón
backup sf: Lance

Can the Knicks get another legit forward or 2 guard to add to the rotation?
There are guys dangling around the league. Guys not so attractive but could be missing pieces to what we are trying to do.

Rookie wrote:Tony Wroten. 6'-5" 205lbs = big PG. 23 years old. He wants to play here, so will buy in to the whole zen trianlge deal. Cap friendly, talented, recovering from injury still so not playing at 100% which is still 90% better then anyone else on the roster. Perfect for drive and kick, change of pace, PnR. Not a good outside shooter but has handles and very good court vision. Maybe not a great defender of small faster PG's, but paired with Gallo would instantly be an upgrade on D over what we have. Can force things and turn the ball over.

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The cheap no frills option. Knicks could use the chips to fill another void. Which is probably shooting guard

VCoug wrote:

EnySpree wrote:We just have to simplify things.

Step #1: We absolutely need to upgrade Calderon. At the very least we need a talented athlete to take his minutes away at pg. A guy like Wroten who's dangling waiting for Phil to figure out what he wants to do. It could be Jimmer too, but Wroten size and defense trump whatever Jimmer can do for us right now.

Step #2: There can only be one backup behind Melo. Either Derrick Williams or Lance Thomas. Cleananthony is almost ready to make his way back to the court so the Knicks can stand to lose Lance or Derrick.

Step #3: There can only be one backup big. Either Seraphin or o'quinn has to go. Seraphin is the better post scorer. I think their defense and rebounding are a wash between the two. Seraphin should be our guy. We have Lou Amundson at the end of the bench so wed be good with depth.

That leaves o'quinn, and possibly Derrick Williams as trade chips. We don't have time to baby Grant so I would add him to that mix. Who can we get in return? Again that's a matter of calming down and seeing what we have and what we need.

Pf: KP
Sf: Melo
c : Rolo
pg: Wroten
sg: Afflalo

first big of the bench: Seraphin
first guard off the bench: Galloway
back up pg: Calderón
backup sf: Lance

Can the Knicks get another legit forward or 2 guard to add to the rotation?
There are guys dangling around the league. Guys not so attractive but could be missing pieces to what we are trying to do.

Wouldn't Early have to have played at some point to be making his way back to the court? Let's be realy, he's a 2nd round pick who hasn't played at all in his short career. He's gone after his contract is up this season.

Were talking 3rd string small fwd dude. We only need Melo and Either Lance or Derrick. Early would be sitting next to Lou waiting for someone to get hurt

Chandler wrote:

EnySpree wrote:We just have to simplify things.

Step #1: We absolutely need to upgrade Calderon. At the very least we need a talented athlete to take his minutes away at pg. A guy like Wroten who's dangling waiting for Phil to figure out what he wants to do. It could be Jimmer too, but Wroten size and defense trump whatever Jimmer can do for us right now.

Step #2: There can only be one backup behind Melo. Either Derrick Williams or Lance Thomas. Cleananthony is almost ready to make his way back to the court so the Knicks can stand to lose Lance or Derrick.

Step #3: There can only be one backup big. Either Seraphin or o'quinn has to go. Seraphin is the better post scorer. I think their defense and rebounding are a wash between the two. Seraphin should be our guy. We have Lou Amundson at the end of the bench so wed be good with depth.

That leaves o'quinn, and possibly Derrick Williams as trade chips. We don't have time to baby Grant so I would add him to that mix. Who can we get in return? Again that's a matter of calming down and seeing what we have and what we need.

Pf: KP
Sf: Melo
c : Rolo
pg: Wroten
sg: Afflalo

first big of the bench: Seraphin
first guard off the bench: Galloway
back up pg: Calderón
backup sf: Lance

Can the Knicks get another legit forward or 2 guard to add to the rotation?
There are guys dangling around the league. Guys not so attractive but could be missing pieces to what we are trying to do.

I like this idea of simplification but don't get the Wroten stuff. I'll admit I haven't followed him but I can't see the logic of expecting a guy who was cut from the sixers and then unemployed coming in and starting in a helpful way. Even if we picked him up I would hope it was a 10 day experiment.

The Lance versus Derick debate is interesting. LT Has the versatility to guard a guard, and a better jumper, but I have a feeling mgmt likes Derrick's athleticism and upside.

Wroten is still the low risk high reward gamble. Again 10 day contact? Maybe sign him to the minimum for the rest of the year if he fits? Sounds good to me. Knicks could trade for more help elsewhere if we can't get a point guard. Keep in mind Wroten has averaged 16pts/5 rebs in this league. It was on the Sixers but the stats are still nba stats. The foundation for success is there for cheap

nixluva wrote:Gotta wonder if Jerian is gonna be in the Gym putting up 500 shots a day! In addition to wanting to bring in more help it would also help of guys raised their game. Jerian I thought would eventually take the job from Jose at some point in the season. I've been disappointed in his lack of progress. I feel Fish should've played him and KP together more often and as we saw when they finally had them together it looked really good in the Drag Screen and PnR game. Wonder what Rambis intends to do with Jerian?

Difference between a guy like KP and Jerian. Kp want to prove he belongs and works tirelessly at it. He was ready day one. Jerian still looks lost. He has zero confidence. If a guy has no confidence you can't do anything for him. Jerian had his share of chances. He's been playing. Forcing a guy to play 30 mins per without proving they deserve it is toxic behavior. Jerian has to prove he belongs.