Rookie wrote:Knicks have had a tough schedule without a lot of rest. No need for panic moves. The AS break can't come soon enough. Hopefully we can stay competitive till then. These guys are playing hard and need some rest. Our schedule this year has sucked and I think the short rotation is wearing us down. AA shouldn't be playing 36 minutes. What we need is a little more depth, and not to blow the team up.

I don't agree and wouldn't call getting rid of guys that aren't in our future plans a panic move. This team that we have now is NOT a team that we can win in the playoffs with and is NOT the finished product that Phil has in mind anyway so why not keep building for the future even if it means missing the playoffs this year?? We need to remember that this roster is gonna change regardless if we do it at this trade deadline or in the off season but the difference is we could get something for some of these guys now but not after this season when they opt out of their contracts.

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of AA. All the guy does is shoot no matter how contested he is. He cant pass, defend, or much else. At least melo is defending well now and passing much more than he did the past. I just dont like AA much despite him having good shooting games once in a while

Yeah i like what he gives us with his shot and post up moves but he disappears when we need him most and doesn't pass or rebound. Gallo is at least rebounding the ball for us when he's in the game. AA takes bad shots to.

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of AA. All the guy does is shoot no matter how contested he is. He cant pass, defend, or much else. At least melo is defending well now and passing much more than he did the past. I just dont like AA much despite him having good shooting games once in a while

Yeah i like what he gives us with his shot and post up moves but he disappears when we need him most and doesn't pass or rebound. Gallo is at least rebounding the ball for us when he's in the game. AA takes bad shots to.

very true. Im fine if a player has a bad shooting night as long as they contribute in other ways, AA cant.

Yep and with him playing a lot of SF last night he should of been in there rebounding more. He isn't worth a pay raise when he opts out after the year.

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of AA. All the guy does is shoot no matter how contested he is. He cant pass, defend, or much else. At least melo is defending well now and passing much more than he did the past. I just dont like AA much despite him having good shooting games once in a while

Yeah i like what he gives us with his shot and post up moves but he disappears when we need him most and doesn't pass or rebound. Gallo is at least rebounding the ball for us when he's in the game. AA takes bad shots to.

Toronto might trade us our# 1 back for affalo

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of AA. All the guy does is shoot no matter how contested he is. He cant pass, defend, or much else. At least melo is defending well now and passing much more than he did the past. I just dont like AA much despite him having good shooting games once in a while

Yeah i like what he gives us with his shot and post up moves but he disappears when we need him most and doesn't pass or rebound. Gallo is at least rebounding the ball for us when he's in the game. AA takes bad shots to.

Toronto might trade us our# 1 back for affalo

Don't know if sarcasm but i would absolutely give that some thought. I would love to make the playoffs this year but i'd rather build this team for the future to where we're competing every year and we're still a couple of year away from that so if we could get a first rounder for AA i'd take it and add another young piece to our future which is KP.

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Never was a fan of AA. All the guy does is shoot no matter how contested he is. He cant pass, defend, or much else. At least melo is defending well now and passing much more than he did the past. I just dont like AA much despite him having good shooting games once in a while

Yeah i like what he gives us with his shot and post up moves but he disappears when we need him most and doesn't pass or rebound. Gallo is at least rebounding the ball for us when he's in the game. AA takes bad shots to.

Toronto might trade us our# 1 back for affalo

That would be nice

martin wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Rookie wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Rookie wrote:Knicks have had a tough schedule without a lot of rest. No need for panic moves. The AS break can't come soon enough. Hopefully we can stay competitive till then. These guys are playing hard and need some rest. Our schedule this year has sucked and I think the short rotation is wearing us down. AA shouldn't be playing 36 minutes. What we need is a little more depth, and not to blow the team up.

I don't agree and wouldn't call getting rid of guys that aren't in our future plans a panic move. This team that we have now is NOT a team that we can win in the playoffs with and is NOT the finished product that Phil has in mind anyway so why not keep building for the future even if it means missing the playoffs this year?? We need to remember that this roster is gonna change regardless if we do it at this trade deadline or in the off season but the difference is we could get something for some of these guys now but not after this season when they opt out of their contracts.

The position we really need an upgrade at is PG. Your post and reply are so full of contradictions that I am not going to spend the time to point them out. This thread is ridiculous.

I don't know if you know this but nobody asked you to spend any of your to point anything out and nobody even asked you to even post anything in this thread so be gone. lol By the way.......we all know that we need an upgrade at point guard and we talk about it every day on here.

But that's just stating the obvious. How and who and is it clearly beneficial.

gunsnewing wrote:Not really. It would require Toronto feeling a lot of guilt and sympathy for trading us Bargnani for a 1st. So I doubt it

lol. That was the worst trade ever. I don't wanna deal with Toronto ever again, it never works well

newyorker4ever wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Rookie wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Rookie wrote:Knicks have had a tough schedule without a lot of rest. No need for panic moves. The AS break can't come soon enough. Hopefully we can stay competitive till then. These guys are playing hard and need some rest. Our schedule this year has sucked and I think the short rotation is wearing us down. AA shouldn't be playing 36 minutes. What we need is a little more depth, and not to blow the team up.

I don't agree and wouldn't call getting rid of guys that aren't in our future plans a panic move. This team that we have now is NOT a team that we can win in the playoffs with and is NOT the finished product that Phil has in mind anyway so why not keep building for the future even if it means missing the playoffs this year?? We need to remember that this roster is gonna change regardless if we do it at this trade deadline or in the off season but the difference is we could get something for some of these guys now but not after this season when they opt out of their contracts.

The position we really need an upgrade at is PG. Your post and reply are so full of contradictions that I am not going to spend the time to point them out. This thread is ridiculous.

I don't know if you know this but nobody asked you to spend any of your to point anything out and nobody even asked you to even post anything in this thread so be gone. lol By the way.......we all know that we need an upgrade at point guard and we talk about it every day on here.

But that's just stating the obvious. How and who and is it clearly beneficial.

Well you tell me what you think about it?? Do you think we should trade any of the guys i mentioned in A.Afflalo, D.Williams, L.Galloway or K.O'Quinn to keep building for the future or do we keep the guys we have and make a playoff run knowing that AA and DW will opt out after this year and be looking for more money and even more years on a contract?? If they do opt out and we give them more money then we won't have the money to sign a max guy so guys like M.Conley, N.Batum and D.Derozan will no longer be guys we can afford.

unless it's a no-brainer deal than I say do nothing at this point. Roster turnover is hard to deal with unless it's end of bench player or obvious long-term upgrades. Similarly, the Knicks have started to get some cohesion in the starting lineup before this Melo ankle turn, why ruin that?

If AA, DWill opt out (and that's an IF), then Knicks will have more cap money to spend elsewhere, plenty of guys out there. If they opt out, there is no assumption that we HAVE to sign them or sign them to more money, why have you assumed that?