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earthmansurfer
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12/23/2015  5:35 AM
You know, I have always given the guy the benefit of the doubt. Even when everyone was getting on his case, but after reading his latest "hit piece", I've had it. The guy is purely divisive and would be better served covering no team.

"Fisher’s snippy response to Derrick Williams robbery question"
http://nypost.com/2015/12/23/fishers-snippy-response-to-derrick-williams-robbery-question/

“Derrick hasn’t really chosen to talk about it to allow it to be any distraction,’’ Fisher said. “I don’t know why I need to be [talking about it].’’

You know Marc, if that is snippy, then you need to get your head examined. Stick to writing about basketball, or rather, try to write about basketball.

We are trying to build something here, and Berman, no doubt is trying to break that apart as usual.

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12/23/2015  8:08 AM
haha.... yea, for a hoops town we dont have much in the ways of media that actually add anything of value
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12/23/2015  8:16 AM
Chris Herring is very good. Al Iannazzone also isn't too bad... The rest of them just kind of recycle the same garbage story about a game and/or try to fabricate drama.
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12/23/2015  10:56 AM
I just think this team has a chance to really change things and having a writer that writes like Marc does (as a matter of general habit), is very divisive towards what we are building now. There is no place for it.

I mentioned this on the other forum:

I'm not really sure we can say mentioning someones name keeps them relevant. I mean I see the part where there is an unconscious acknowledgment of the piece. But at the same time, if we seek change, we bring it about quite actively. Tyrants don't decide to leave, they usually have to be removed.

Not saying I want him removed as I remember reading some good pieces. But to constantly instigate trouble with the team is actually terrible for the team. People read that crap and he brings up possibly good points (to hate). Some people it will divide from the rest. I think with Marc it is pretty clear how he has an ax to grind. Not even sure he would say he hides that, as it is damn obvious.

Marc - How about try writing for your team again? I'm not saying to blindly accept things by no stretch of the imagination. Criticise basketball decisions, we discuss that constantly. But let's keep this about basketball and not make it personal. It reads like a red herring with some Ad Hominem thrown in. And always looking to throw some Poisoning the Well in for good measure.

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12/23/2015  11:24 AM
Berman is pretty bad. He seems to try to create drama all the time. I might be wrong but I think when players and Fisher respond to his questions their tone changes. He does have tid bits of info sometimes though so you can't just dismiss him. However, anytime he writes something controversial it is always smart to either ignore it or watch the actual interview where he got the quote from. It is too bad he doesn't get reassigned to a different position for the Post.
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12/23/2015  11:26 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Berman is pretty bad. He seems to try to create drama all the time. I might be wrong but I think when players and Fisher respond to his questions their tone changes. He does have tid bits of info sometimes though so you can't just dismiss him. However, anytime he writes something controversial it is always smart to either ignore it or watch the actual interview where he got the quote from. It is too bad he doesn't get reassigned to a different position for the Post.

Yeah, you can tell the players get suspicious when Berman is asking, because they know he's looking for some BS angle to create fake controversy.

I used to love the way Shump responded to him.

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12/23/2015  1:02 PM
nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  1:17 PM
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?
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12/23/2015  1:29 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  1:39 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:You know, I have always given the guy the benefit of the doubt. Even when everyone was getting on his case, but after reading his latest "hit piece", I've had it. The guy is purely divisive and would be better served covering no team.

"Fisher’s snippy response to Derrick Williams robbery question"
http://nypost.com/2015/12/23/fishers-snippy-response-to-derrick-williams-robbery-question/

“Derrick hasn’t really chosen to talk about it to allow it to be any distraction,’’ Fisher said. “I don’t know why I need to be [talking about it].’’

You know Marc, if that is snippy, then you need to get your head examined. Stick to writing about basketball, or rather, try to write about basketball.

We are trying to build something here, and Berman, no doubt is trying to break that apart as usual.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year,
EMS


Frank Isola rips Berman as a clown at every turn, I do like Herring better. Having said that, Dwill having alot of bling kinda fits the persona I see on court. Showy yet not complete. I personally rather not see him exercise his player option
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12/23/2015  1:39 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.
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mreinman
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12/23/2015  1:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
CrushAlot
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12/23/2015  1:59 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.
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mreinman
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12/23/2015  2:02 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.

yeah ... I remember fishers interview. It was pretty telling. No reading between the lines needed.

As far as posting articles, I don't really look at the writers. To me they all suck other then a couple of good ones.

But I see your point.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  2:16 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.

yeah ... I remember fishers interview. It was pretty telling. No reading between the lines needed.

As far as posting articles, I don't really look at the writers. To me they all suck other then a couple of good ones.

But I see your point.

In regards to Fisher's interview he was asked a specific question about Melo and answered. I checked back and the link doesn't work anymore but not sure what was telling about the interview. I watched it at least four times when thread based on Berman's article was posted and could not figure out how Berman or anyone else came to the conclusion that Fisher had a tirade or called out Melo.
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mreinman
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12/23/2015  2:20 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.

yeah ... I remember fishers interview. It was pretty telling. No reading between the lines needed.

As far as posting articles, I don't really look at the writers. To me they all suck other then a couple of good ones.

But I see your point.

In regards to Fisher's interview he was asked a specific question about Melo and answered. I checked back and the link doesn't work anymore but not sure what was telling about the interview. I watched it at least four times when thread based on Berman's article was posted and could not figure out how Berman or anyone else came to the conclusion that Fisher had a tirade or called out Melo.

Really? Not sure about a tirade but he definitely called out melo.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  2:53 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.

yeah ... I remember fishers interview. It was pretty telling. No reading between the lines needed.

As far as posting articles, I don't really look at the writers. To me they all suck other then a couple of good ones.

But I see your point.

In regards to Fisher's interview he was asked a specific question about Melo and answered. I checked back and the link doesn't work anymore but not sure what was telling about the interview. I watched it at least four times when thread based on Berman's article was posted and could not figure out how Berman or anyone else came to the conclusion that Fisher had a tirade or called out Melo.

Really? Not sure about a tirade but he definitely called out melo.

This is the article that you posted.
http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/why-fisher-singled-out-carmelo-in-knicks-wide-tirade/
If you watched the interview it wasn't a tirade and fisher responding to a writer asking a melo specific question wasn't signaling out Melo, just answering a question. It was Berman made up drama just like the story today.
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12/23/2015  3:10 PM
crush, gadzooks with going after folks who have had issues with anthony.
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12/23/2015  3:12 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:nypost is a tabloid paper. Not sure why anyone cares.
Why do people post his articles?

why not?

why are these articles posted on this site?

Not sure but it is entertaining when posters come up with conclusions like this based on Marc's work.
Fisher ain't happy with Melo and Melo ain't gonna be happy with fisher. They better start winning fast or this sh1t's gonna explode.

those were opinions based on direct quotes not bermans opinion.


There was an entire interview on msg that put the quotes in context and the quote was from Fisher and was not that dramatic. Similar to the quote cited by the op here. With Berman you always need to check the context or you sound like you are mind reading or taking an educated guess. Pretty sure a link to Fisher's interview was posted in the thread.

yeah ... I remember fishers interview. It was pretty telling. No reading between the lines needed.

As far as posting articles, I don't really look at the writers. To me they all suck other then a couple of good ones.

But I see your point.

In regards to Fisher's interview he was asked a specific question about Melo and answered. I checked back and the link doesn't work anymore but not sure what was telling about the interview. I watched it at least four times when thread based on Berman's article was posted and could not figure out how Berman or anyone else came to the conclusion that Fisher had a tirade or called out Melo.

Really? Not sure about a tirade but he definitely called out melo.

This is the article that you posted.
http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/why-fisher-singled-out-carmelo-in-knicks-wide-tirade/
If you watched the interview it wasn't a tirade and fisher responding to a writer asking a melo specific question wasn't signaling out Melo, just answering a question. It was Berman made up drama just like the story today.

no tirade but fisher was clearly upset with the way that melo was playing. Upset enough that now melo has changed his game more than any other time in his career.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/23/2015  3:14 PM
sidsanders wrote:crush, gadzooks with going after folks who have had issues with anthony.
I thought it fit the thread and then I was just joking.
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