I like Rondo, mainly because he is an artist on the floor. He defends and rebounds at such a high clip, and the fact that he is a champion is also a reason why I believe we should go after him. However, I am not sure whether Phil will be looking to get a guy who will fit the system (triangle) or a dude that can come in and make plays. Rondo is not known to be able to shoot the ball, but I believe his scoring ability is underrated. This year, he is averaging: 12.3 ppg, 10.9 apg, 6.8 rpg. Out of his play making alone, he is really scoring more than 31 points (12.3 ppg + the points generated from his assists)

Conley too is a nice commodity, he is a dude who has infinite range on the floor and can defend. However, I don't believe he will ever leave Memphis. He is averaging: 15.4 ppg, 6.2 apg.

So, what do you all think?

Not sure PHil agrees the PG is the most important.
Rondo is a special athlete and does things many guards can't. Driving his coach nuts is one of them.

helloharv wrote:Add Conley to our current group and we turn into the 4-5 seed next year !

and with Rondo??????

Who was the great PG that helped the Magic beat the Knicks last night? In fact late in the game the Magic like the Knicks were not reliant on the PG for running their offense. Oladipo is actually a SG. It's possible to play good basketball without a ball dominant PG. You simply need SMART and AGGRESSIVE guard play period. More importantly we need to execute at a higher level at every position. Having a Ball Dominant PG simply makes the game easier for the rest of the players since he's making most of the ball decisions.

Fish does seem to recognize that we need more from our guards than Jose was providing as Fish did go away from him in the 4th qtr. Still we need a guard that is more of a combo guard. Someone who is a dangerous scorer but also able to make good decisions with the ball and execute Give n Go or PnR, but also attack the rim effectively. This is why we drafted Jerian.

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
what about assists that are three pointers. Don't forget those!!!

Not sure PHil agrees the PG is the most important.
Rondo is a special athlete and does things many guards can't. Driving his coach nuts is one of them.

ahahahahaha, I agree that he does drive his coaches nuts, but so did Rodman. The triangle does not restrict PGs, it is not one of those systems that asks of a coach to always call plays. So, I see no reason why Rondo would not fit other then his shot making issues. Which is not really an issue, because Rondo makes it a point to attack the basket at all times.

Rodman's issues were mostly off court. Dude has 5 rings. Rondo was guided by strong leadership by three HOF alpha's.

Rondo can't shoot which makes him incompatible in our system.

Rondo can't shoot? How do you explain Calderon's numbers? Phil thought he was perfect for the triangle:)))))))
Rondo: 12.3 ppg, 10.9 apg, 6.8 rpg
Calderon: 7.0 ppg, 3.7 apg, 2.9 rpg

We not talking about Calderon. The subject was Rondo.
LOok at his % from mid to long range. Not his layups either.

PHil thought he'd be perfect? He is better than Felton. That as the upgrade. Calderones minutes shrink when others play well.

nixluva wrote:Rondo doesn't like being scripted by a system. I can imagine he'd HATE the Triangle, which as we all know minimizes the PG role. Conley would likely be a better option for how we play.

Who was the great PG that helped the Magic beat the Knicks last night? In fact late in the game the Magic like the Knicks were not reliant on the PG for running their offense. Oladipo is actually a SG. It's possible to play good basketball without a ball dominant PG. You simply need SMART and AGGRESSIVE guard play period. More importantly we need to execute at a higher level at every position. Having a Ball Dominant PG simply makes the game easier for the rest of the players since he's making most of the ball decisions.

Fish does seem to recognize that we need more from our guards than Jose was providing as Fish did go away from him in the 4th qtr. Still we need a guard that is more of a combo guard. Someone who is a dangerous scorer but also able to make good decisions with the ball and execute Give n Go or PnR, but also attack the rim effectively. This is why we drafted Jerian.

so, would you say that Lance Stephenson is a perfect fit? He can make shots, and he is a big guard. Although he appears to have suddenly forgotten how to play basketball.

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mreinman wrote:I worry that conley's production is declining

so, would you rather have Rondo? and why?

I think that I would pass on both unless Conley will come for cheap which he won't

mreinman wrote:I worry that conley's production is declining

I think it might be somewhat a factor of the type of offense Memphis is running and the ammount of talent on that team. That team really struggles to score from almost every position most nights. Marc Gasol's numbers are way off this year, too.

But he is 30. So it could be decline due to age.

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Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:I worry that conley's production is declining

so, would you rather have Rondo? and why?

I think that I would pass on both unless Conley will come for cheap which he won't

I see no one else out there, and we can't afford to go through next season without resolving this issue. This is a PG league after all.

they aren't the only two guys on earth and we don't have to play GM since phil will figure out who that could be.

I hope that we find a young up and comer like Joseph. I also would not mind developing our own. I am in no rush to win like you are.

I like Joseph, but if we are going to retain Grant, we must ensure that we have a CAPABLE veteran PG on the roster to teach him the ropes. Calderon is a veteran, but he is not CAPABLE. Whoever that veteran is, he has to be able to come in and contribute positively