if you want a smart guy to start the triangle from the pinch post, who would you want? He has to be on the upper end of the IQ scale for bigs. he just hasn't done this before and was put into a critical role.

fingers-crossed i'm right

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:We should have gotten Monroe

How good do you really think Monroe would look orchestrating the offense from 15 to 20 feet out and shooting mid-range shots? He'd be even worse at that than Rolo - he'd probably be shooting like 38%.

terrible! But we should have signed him instead ... oh ... aside from the issue that he chose not to sign here.

Swishfm3 wrote:This is not the right offensive system for Robin Lopez.

And, IMO, I think we would have had the same problem if we would have signed D.Jordan. These type of players seem to have difficulty playing with their back to the basket.

Like Yellowboy mentioned, more PnR need to be ran in order to fully take advantage of Rolo on the offensive side.

but I do think Monroe, offensively, would have excelled in this type of offensive. I also believe OK4 would have also done well.

This is all true but I also think RoLo will expand his game in this system. That's something that has already started but it's hard to quantify at this early stage. I think people tend to underestimate how it takes time for some to really get comfortable in a role in this system. Some people take to it like a fish in water based on their game but some will have to make major changes in how they play. RoLo is going thru that but I don't think he's entirely miscast to the point where he will never improve. It's only 26 games and that's really nothing when talking about a player learning how to play a completely different way. Especially when that player isn't a naturally gifted offensively player to begin with.

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:We should have gotten Monroe

How good do you really think Monroe would look orchestrating the offense from 15 to 20 feet out and shooting mid-range shots? He'd be even worse at that than Rolo - he'd probably be shooting like 38%.

terrible! But we should have signed him instead ... oh ... aside from the issue that he chose not to sign here.

Swishfm3 wrote:This is not the right offensive system for Robin Lopez.

And, IMO, I think we would have had the same problem if we would have signed D.Jordan. These type of players seem to have difficulty playing with their back to the basket.

Like Yellowboy mentioned, more PnR need to be ran in order to fully take advantage of Rolo on the offensive side.

but I do think Monroe, offensively, would have excelled in this type of offensive. I also believe OK4 would have also done well.

This is a post from KB
http://knickerblogger.net/2015-16-game-thread-knicks-vs-timberwolves/#comment-516910

For example, Grant is running PNR as the ball handler on 32.9% of possessions when he’s playing which is more than players like Jimmy Butler, Isaiah Thomas, Stephen Curry, Jeremy Lin, Ty Lawson, Deron Williams, Lebron James, Manu Ginobili, Paul George, etc. The main issue is that Grant is extremely turnover prone in these situations and turns it over at the 10th highest rate among players that have played at least 12 games and are the ball handler in PNR on at least 20% of their possessions.

Both Jose and Grant are handling the ball in PNR at over 30% frequency of their possessions, but they are posting a ****ty .66 and .65 PPP respectively in those situations.

See I think the problem is not that the knicks need more PnR but I think they need to switch PnR partners. Calderon runs the PnR and looks to shoot a mid rande shot or he'll pass it out to Afflalo or go into posting Melo while missing an open KP. He isn't trying to fit pocket passes into Lopez or penetrate trying to create lob opportunities for Lopez. He should be working the PnR like Delladova. He already has an advantage of players not want to go under the screen because of his shooting skills when he decides to shoot. Like I said he is a very risk adverse guard right now. You do not have to be the fastest or quickest player you just need to know how to use your bball IQ to create positive opportunities.

As for Grant he was running PnRs with Seraphin. Like come on that's not even giving Grant a chance. Grant needs more time with Lopez, a guy who knows how to position himself on screens. Coming out of Notre Dame Grant was regarded as a PnR player and coming from Portland Lopez was known as a PnR big it seems so simple to pair the two.

The knicks have depth with O'Quinn and KP to check Lopez out early and get him minutes with Grant. That assumes that he will eventually pass the great Sasha Vujacic on the depth chart.