Knicks1969 wrote:It is absurd to want to trade anyone of our players at this point; specifically, when the bigger problem is the ineptitude of our "no experience" coach. During this last 20 games, I see nothing but mismanagement of our talents. Guy are not being used properly, not getting proper minutes to show what they can do. Before asking to trade certain players, we should demand that our coaches set a rotation and stick to it for a set amount of games. Take the data accumulated and make adjustments accordingly. Seraphin has been a fixture in the rotation the last five games, analyze his effectiveness and if the numbers don't look good, play KO.

OK....this has gone along for enough. Please stop with the incessant posting of the same thing especailly in threads that have noting to do with the coach. You are a broken record. Multiple people have pointed this out. Put it in your signature if you want but stop posting it over and over.

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Nalod, thank you for the disrespect. I will take the high road and treat you with nothing but pure respect. My loyalty is to the betterment of my beloved team, not a coach nor player

btw, you have been a respectful poster and a good fan. All everyone is trying to say is that you are starting to come off as quite delusional and way too repetitive.

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Nalod, thank you for the disrespect. I will take the high road and treat you with nothing but pure respect. My loyalty is to the betterment of my beloved team, not a coach nor player

btw, you have been a respectful poster and a good fan. All everyone is trying to say is that you are starting to come off as quite delusional and way too repetitive.

Mreinman, how am I not supposed to be repetitive when the errors are repeated every game? How long have we all been calling for a set rotation? How long have we been calling to speed up the tempo to take advantage of our talents?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Nalod, thank you for the disrespect. I will take the high road and treat you with nothing but pure respect. My loyalty is to the betterment of my beloved team, not a coach nor player

btw, you have been a respectful poster and a good fan. All everyone is trying to say is that you are starting to come off as quite delusional and way too repetitive.

Mreinman, how am I not supposed to be repetitive when the errors are repeated every game? How long have we all been calling for a set rotation? How long have we been calling to speed up the tempo to take advantage of our talents?

if you posted arguments with plus minus data proving your points or show how players are being over/under utilized based on career usage, efficiency etc ... it would be good. Bring a different angle to your arguments.

Saying that Fisher should be fired because he definitely should give koq major minutes or that if he gave THJ 40 minutes a game he would see that THJ is a guaranteed star ... these are just statements that have no basis and just look plain wrong.

I posted the other about Fisher completely misplaying MCW. I thought that it was horrendous and just showed a bad preparation. MCW can't shoot at all yet they were running him off his shots and going over the pick instead of under. It was a post based on something that I saw that seemed like a complete miss on his part.

You posted in the game thread about how melo passing into lopez looked bad and that lopez was not holding his position. That was a good point and something to keep track of.

Reasons I don't backup my arguments with +- is because I don't believe in those numbers. Analytics in my opinion is for fantasy owners. When your over all record as a coach is 25 Wins and 77 losses, it is simply hard to make a believer out of people like myself. This dude used more than 35 different starting lineups last season; he is basically doing the same exact thing with the second unit this year.

25 Wins and 77 losses are the only numbers that matter in my book

Knicks1969 wrote:Before asking to trade certain players, we should demand that our coaches set a rotation and stick to it for a set amount of games.

Asking for trades or demanding our coaches use a set rotation both = vapor.

You're a fan. No one is listening to you. What do first or second are equally irrelevant, so the order in which you do them is moot.

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Nalod, thank you for the disrespect. I will take the high road and treat you with nothing but pure respect. My loyalty is to the betterment of my beloved team, not a coach nor player

btw, you have been a respectful poster and a good fan. All everyone is trying to say is that you are starting to come off as quite delusional and way too repetitive.

Mreinman, how am I not supposed to be repetitive when the errors are repeated every game? How long have we all been calling for a set rotation? How long have we been calling to speed up the tempo to take advantage of our talents?

if you posted arguments with plus minus data proving your points or show how players are being over/under utilized based on career usage, efficiency etc ... it would be good. Bring a different angle to your arguments.

Saying that Fisher should be fired because he definitely should give koq major minutes or that if he gave THJ 40 minutes a game he would see that THJ is a guaranteed star ... these are just statements that have no basis and just look plain wrong.

I posted the other about Fisher completely misplaying MCW. I thought that it was horrendous and just showed a bad preparation. MCW can't shoot at all yet they were running him off his shots and going over the pick instead of under. It was a post based on something that I saw that seemed like a complete miss on his part.

You posted in the game thread about how melo passing into lopez looked bad and that lopez was not holding his position. That was a good point and something to keep track of.

Reasons I don't backup my arguments with +- is because I don't believe in those numbers. Analytics in my opinion is for fantasy owners. When your over all record as a coach is 25 Wins and 77 losses, it is simply hard to make a believer out of people like myself. This dude used more than 35 different starting lineups last season; he is basically doing the same exact thing with the second unit this year.

oy vey! These statements are awful. Like when you killed the zach lowe article the other yet you admitted to not reading it. C'mon man! You have to up your game especially if you are to me calling the shots for our beloved knicks. 2 + 2 = 4? Not really buying that math crap.

25 Wins and 77 losses are the only numbers that matter in my book. Since you are an analytic dude, what does that translate in % of wins?

it translates into I don't give a sh1t. How is kurt ram-buses winning pct?

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:ugh, shut the **** up already. thread after ****ing thread, you are killing this forum with your constant incoherent babbling.

What's incoherent? The misuse of our talents? It is simply a matter of fact Sir. I am not advocating to fire the coach (es) in this thread, I am proposing a better use for our talents instead of trying to trade players.

You have taken it upon yourself that you know better than Phil, Rambis, and Cleamans whom all have championship backgrounds. Warkenten and John Gabriel are former execs of the year. Mills, is a Princeton grad and former player was vetted by consulting firm Mckinsey and company and was hired to run the team before Phil got here. Your a fan who wants whats best your assuming you understand things other than second guessing what you are not expert in.

That's the nice way. some of us have tried to explain this but to no avail. This or......

Your a phuching idiot.

Take your pick.

Nalod, thank you for the disrespect. I will take the high road and treat you with nothing but pure respect. My loyalty is to the betterment of my beloved team, not a coach nor player

btw, you have been a respectful poster and a good fan. All everyone is trying to say is that you are starting to come off as quite delusional and way too repetitive.

Mreinman, how am I not supposed to be repetitive when the errors are repeated every game? How long have we all been calling for a set rotation? How long have we been calling to speed up the tempo to take advantage of our talents?

if you posted arguments with plus minus data proving your points or show how players are being over/under utilized based on career usage, efficiency etc ... it would be good. Bring a different angle to your arguments.

Saying that Fisher should be fired because he definitely should give koq major minutes or that if he gave THJ 40 minutes a game he would see that THJ is a guaranteed star ... these are just statements that have no basis and just look plain wrong.

I posted the other about Fisher completely misplaying MCW. I thought that it was horrendous and just showed a bad preparation. MCW can't shoot at all yet they were running him off his shots and going over the pick instead of under. It was a post based on something that I saw that seemed like a complete miss on his part.

You posted in the game thread about how melo passing into lopez looked bad and that lopez was not holding his position. That was a good point and something to keep track of.

Reasons I don't backup my arguments with +- is because I don't believe in those numbers. Analytics in my opinion is for fantasy owners. When your over all record as a coach is 25 Wins and 77 losses, it is simply hard to make a believer out of people like myself. This dude used more than 35 different starting lineups last season; he is basically doing the same exact thing with the second unit this year.

oy vey! These statements are awful. Like when you killed the zach lowe article the other yet you admitted to not reading it. C'mon man! You have to up your game especially if you are to me calling the shots for our beloved knicks. 2 + 2 = 4? Not really buying that math crap.

25 Wins and 77 losses are the only numbers that matter in my book. Since you are an analytic dude, what does that translate in % of wins?

it translates into I don't give a sh1t and the crap is for idiots. How is kurt ram-buses winning pct?

Please help me understand; you don't care about wins and losses?

As it relates to Rambis, I believe this dude can redeem himself if given a second chance. He is more matured as a coach. Same can be said for Fisher in a few years; that is if he spends some time on the bench as an assistant.