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Swishfm3
Posts: 23312 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2003 Member: #392 |
11/12/2015 10:09 AM
You do realize Fisher is not a member of this site.
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
11/12/2015 10:51 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:You do realize Fisher is not a member of this site. Thanks Swishfm3 for the reminder. |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
11/12/2015 11:10 AM
I was annoyed when I read that Porzingis ended up taking that due to a broken play- I thought finally Fisher had seen the light. This obsession with Melo taking every last shot has to stop- teams are ready for it. We now have Gallo who can take and make final shots, Porzingis and Afflalo. Draw up something imaginative that takes advantage of these that the opposing defense isn't expecting.
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
11/12/2015 11:13 AM
smackeddog wrote:I was annoyed when I read that Porzingis ended up taking that due to a broken play- I thought finally Fisher had seen the light. This obsession with Melo taking every last shot has to stop- teams are ready for it. We now have Gallo who can take and make final shots, Porzingis and Afflalo. Draw up something imaginative that takes advantage of these that the opposing defense isn't expecting. Somebody here using logic!!! Yes draw up a dam play. If not KP, use him as a decoy then dish off to Afflalo or Galloway off a curl. 24 seconds and this is the best you can do!!!!! Hope Melo bails you out after Hose-A holds the ball for 14 seconds at the top of the key doing nothing!!!! Stupid play call. +1 smackeddog |
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SwishAndDish13
Posts: 20878 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/2/2013 Member: #5700 |
11/12/2015 11:23 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Do you realize that it was a broken play? It was actually called for KP to set a pick for Carmelo, but time was not sufficient and KP took it upon himself to shoot the ball Thanks for finding this video. I watched it several times on MSG. This isn't the best angle, but when he makes the swing move the ball gets poked and he loses control then gets forced into the corner. I actually thought he was going to just turn it over live. Regardless of if it was Melo or KP or anybody else on the roster, a low percentage shot was coming. |
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Nalod
Posts: 71379 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
11/12/2015 11:29 AM
Isn't broken plays set up for plan b, c, d??
So if KP was not able to get to the screen, was it not then an option? |
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
11/12/2015 11:32 AM
SwishAndDish13 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Do you realize that it was a broken play? It was actually called for KP to set a pick for Carmelo, but time was not sufficient and KP took it upon himself to shoot the ball It doesn't have to be a low percentage shot though, right? You have Galloway shooting 62% from 3, Afflalo having a decent game, KP one of the best mid range shooters the Knicks have, and with 24 seconds virtually an eternity have Melo shoot a contested fadeaway in the corner over a taller defender... It's a dumb play call, end of story. Better options were available. |
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ChuckBuck
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11/12/2015 11:34 AM
Nalod wrote:Isn't broken plays set up for plan b, c, d?? Melo could not break free, so KP took the shot from the low pass at his knees instinctively and swished it. Melo was obviously option A on the play, and KP made himself available to Lance's inbounds pass. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
11/12/2015 11:36 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Do you realize that it was a broken play? It was actually called for KP to set a pick for Carmelo, but time was not sufficient and KP took it upon himself to shoot the ball Ugh always he worst part of that ever so familiar final play is watching the other 4 guys stand around wondering if this is the time Melo tries something different and hits the open man. Just watch Calderon's reaction |
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SwishAndDish13
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11/12/2015 11:38 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:It doesn't have to be a low percentage shot though, right? You have Galloway shooting 62% from 3, Afflalo having a decent game, KP one of the best mid range shooters the Knicks have, and with 24 seconds virtually an eternity have Melo shoot a contested fadeaway in the corner over a taller defender... Agreed. All I'm saying is how they ran it will result it a low percentage shot regardless of who had the ball. If you give somebody the ball 25FT away and they are already dribbling with 10 sec on the clock and no outlet options, you will get a lot of poor percentage shots. It happens to often and we need to change this. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
11/12/2015 11:44 AM LAST EDITED: 11/12/2015 11:45 AM
Yea it happened under Woodson too the one time the play to get Melo the ball 25ft away didn't work. Unfortunately it wound up in JR's hands 25ft away. The 1 or 2 circus buzzer beaters JR hit was when Melo was injured in the bench and the team was able to play loose down the stretch
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ChuckBuck
Posts: 28851 Alba Posts: 11 Joined: 1/3/2012 Member: #3806 USA |
11/12/2015 11:45 AM
SwishAndDish13 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:It doesn't have to be a low percentage shot though, right? You have Galloway shooting 62% from 3, Afflalo having a decent game, KP one of the best mid range shooters the Knicks have, and with 24 seconds virtually an eternity have Melo shoot a contested fadeaway in the corner over a taller defender... Cosign. |
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Knicks1969
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11/12/2015 12:20 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Do you realize that it was a broken play? It was actually called for KP to set a pick for Carmelo, but time was not sufficient and KP took it upon himself to shoot the ball This is a make or miss league. You make some and you miss some. Had he made the shot, you probably wouldn't find it within your heart to criticize Carmelo; oh, wishful thinking Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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