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Knixkik
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11/9/2015  11:01 AM
Both are going to be huge for us going forward. They can also play together which is great. Grant is more of a pure PG while Galloway brings more scoring. Both have high upside on the defensive end. Which one do you see as the starting PG for the future of this team?
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11/9/2015  11:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2015  11:06 AM
Gallo is a 2..Not good at creating for others..But has worked on his spot up shot...He can play PG in spots...Would be nice if he can do it like Joe Dumars, not on his level but just in a sense of role playing...
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11/9/2015  11:44 AM
Grant is your PG of the future. Both he and Galloway are the possible defensive dobermans we've needed on the wings since... forever.
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11/9/2015  11:52 AM
holfresh wrote:Gallo is a 2..Not good at creating for others..But has worked on his spot up shot...He can play PG in spots...Would be nice if he can do it like Joe Dumars, not on his level but just in a sense of role playing...

Joe Dumars, forgot about that guy, good comparison.

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11/9/2015  12:08 PM
Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.
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11/9/2015  12:09 PM
I agree.
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11/9/2015  12:30 PM
Grant is the PG. we need someone who can drive, finish and set up Melo, Affalo & KP. We need his quickness and on ball tenacity defensively. Our starting lineup will be very stout defensively with Lopez, KP, Affalo & Grant. It's going to be the best defense we've seen since the JVG teams. Tyson, Kidd, Shump, prigioni & Rasheed play off defense but it didn't last long as those guys were in and out of the lineup and we were forced to heavily rely on Felton


GALLOWAY is a great combo guard off the bench where we need his scoring and ability to create plays for himself and other. Obviously not as good as Dumars but night be a slightly better Jason Terry

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11/9/2015  12:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2015  2:29 PM
Gallo was much more of a spot up SG in college.

Another Gaines Guy, by the way, for what it is worth.

Spot duties as a PG are fine the way we play, but I would prefer to see him as more of a SG.

I believe he will get better...so don't assume that you've seen the final product. I expect him to work more on his ball handling and creativity next off season, but even if he doesn't, we still have a solid player who has some brains and is a good teammate.

I love the guy, and was one of his very early supporters...and I was very surprised that some around here were overlooking him coming into this season. Ledo, Thanasis, and Shved got much more love from folks, from what I can remember, and people seemed to be of the opinion that the burned out player you saw at the end of last year was the guy you were going to see this year.

You can easily see him being in the rotation of a good playoff quality team... not as a starter, but as someone getting 25-30 MPG and about 10 shots/game.

Hopefully he continues his good shooting. The D, rebounding, and toughness will always be there, though, and this will make him a plus player even if his shooting falters every now and then.

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11/9/2015  12:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2015  12:47 PM
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy. You will see Melo & KP's efficiency numbers go up

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11/9/2015  12:46 PM
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SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/9/2015  12:52 PM
Clearly Grant is the future in terms of future starting PG. But what about right now? Do we throw him into the starting line-up now? I wouldn't have a problem with that if AA manages to stay healthy for a while. But then the question is who runs PG for the 2nd Unit? Gallo?
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11/9/2015  12:54 PM
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

That's fair which is why I see Calderon continuing to start alongside Affalo. Affalo off the bench will not be as valuable as he is getting open looks from 3 from Melo & KP. Hopefully Grant works as hard as Galloway did on his jumpshot. You right it takes time with any rookie

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11/9/2015  12:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2015  12:58 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

That's fair which is why I see Calderon continuing to start alongside Affalo. Affalo off the bench will not be as valuable as he is getting open looks from 3 from Melo & KP. Hopefully Grant works as hard as Galloway did on his jumpshot. You right it takes time with any rookie

I think that jose needs to play the 2. He really can't guard 1's anymore. Its sad for him but it is what it is. Guarding Russell was a vacation for him.

As far as Affalo, I want to see what he will bring before I get to excited about him coming back.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/9/2015  1:01 PM
grants shooting is becoming a little bit of an concer, and he's not exactly finishing around the rim at a high % clip. I love his penetration, but it's extremely important to have guard who can hit the 3, and mid range shots consistently, and grant looks horrible in that dept.
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11/9/2015  1:04 PM
Galloway is really starting to feel like our generation's John Starks.

I would like to start he and Afflalo.

Then Grant as third guard - he can play with either guy.

Calderon can get spot minutes.

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11/9/2015  1:05 PM
It's takes time. Not everyone is Stephen Curry coming out of college and even he drastically improved. Remember even Dirk struggled to shot.

Was Galloway a good shooter in college? I know Grant wasn't but still let him keep working on it

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11/9/2015  1:07 PM
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

That's fair which is why I see Calderon continuing to start alongside Affalo. Affalo off the bench will not be as valuable as he is getting open looks from 3 from Melo & KP. Hopefully Grant works as hard as Galloway did on his jumpshot. You right it takes time with any rookie

I think that jose needs to play the 2. He really can't guard 1's anymore. Its sad for him but it is what it is. Guarding Russell was a vacation for him.

As far as Affalo, I want to see what he will bring before I get to excited about him coming back.

So who plays the 1 while Calderon plays the 2? Gallo? Would that be the 2nd Unit backcourt? And about Afflalo, aren't you just excited that it's not Vujacic?

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11/9/2015  1:08 PM
gunsnewing wrote:It's takes time. Not everyone is Stephen Curry coming out of college and even he drastically improved. Remember even Dirk struggled to shot.

Was Galloway a good shooter in college? I know Grant wasn't but still let him keep working on it

Yes. Galloway was.

Really hard to fix a shot. A lot harder that people think. Rondo?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/9/2015  1:13 PM
herkyJerky wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

That's fair which is why I see Calderon continuing to start alongside Affalo. Affalo off the bench will not be as valuable as he is getting open looks from 3 from Melo & KP. Hopefully Grant works as hard as Galloway did on his jumpshot. You right it takes time with any rookie

I think that jose needs to play the 2. He really can't guard 1's anymore. Its sad for him but it is what it is. Guarding Russell was a vacation for him.

As far as Affalo, I want to see what he will bring before I get to excited about him coming back.

So who plays the 1 while Calderon plays the 2? Gallo? Would that be the 2nd Unit backcourt? And about Afflalo, aren't you just excited that it's not Vujacic?

Gallo or grant at PG. Jose runs with one and Affalo with the other?? I ain't the coach ... as you said, as long as its not sasha.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/9/2015  1:20 PM
mreinman wrote:
herkyJerky wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SwishAndDish13 wrote:Grant. Galloway should have an impact for the foreseeable future, but he is not a true PG. We need a real PG, we can't try to have 2s playing out of position.

Exactly. I wish people would understand he importance of having the ball in the hands of floor general. Someone who looks to distribute and get everyone involved in the offense. Even during the occasional time we do run the triangle. Using your PG simply bring the ball up and giving it to Melo 20ft+ from the basket puts your offense at a major disadvantage which is what we've seen the past few years. Why have Melo be the one to make all the decisions with the ball? The PG has to be that guy

Its not that simple. The league will start really backing off of him taking away all but his outside shot. He has the rest of the game going but he needs to get that shot at least to a respectable level. No need to rush him. Why can't he have 2 years to develop? Why does this all need happen overnight?

It was a great pick not lets not rush him.

That's fair which is why I see Calderon continuing to start alongside Affalo. Affalo off the bench will not be as valuable as he is getting open looks from 3 from Melo & KP. Hopefully Grant works as hard as Galloway did on his jumpshot. You right it takes time with any rookie

I think that jose needs to play the 2. He really can't guard 1's anymore. Its sad for him but it is what it is. Guarding Russell was a vacation for him.

As far as Affalo, I want to see what he will bring before I get to excited about him coming back.

So who plays the 1 while Calderon plays the 2? Gallo? Would that be the 2nd Unit backcourt? And about Afflalo, aren't you just excited that it's not Vujacic?

Gallo or grant at PG. Jose runs with one and Affalo with the other?? I ain't the coach ... as you said, as long as its not sasha.

Right, but here's the point: Either you throw Grant into the starting line-up even if he's not quite ready, or you throw Gallo up there even though he's not a true PG. Also, who looks better with who? I think Calderon's shooting will benefit greatly (which in turn will benefit the team greatly) with Grant as the PG. And if Calderon in the starting line-up is not an ideal situation, then that leaves Gallo running the point in the starting line-up. I would not be totally against Gallo running the point for the starts. Grant is a better creator, but Gallo is certainly not afraid to drive to the basket and create open shots in that way.

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