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CrushAlot
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9/12/2015  7:22 PM
Couldn't copy it.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2015-16-new-york-knicks-season-preview/
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9/12/2015  7:53 PM
I think the Knicks should be much better. I'm not sure they've addressed the new "pace" of the nba and there could be some ugly games where we get blown out. We are much bigger at the hoop so we should be able to get many more ez baskets and on the other side protect in the halfcourt.But faster tempo will hurt them
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9/12/2015  7:57 PM
I agree we should be better. However 35—37 wins seems like a fair number which is a step in the right direction. In the 2016-17 season i expect a much better team after our kids have a year under their belt and we sign another good player
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9/12/2015  8:17 PM
Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

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9/12/2015  8:51 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

i still think we are a year away from even making noise in the playoffs. But i agree if things go right we may be able to grab the 8th seed
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9/12/2015  9:22 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

I guess I wasn't paying enough attention when I read the article. Just excited to see something about the KNicks. Those are great tid bits you pulled out. I am getting really excited for the season. September should go fast with football starting and the Yankees playing meaningful games.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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9/12/2015  9:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

I guess I wasn't paying enough attention when I read the article. Just excited to see something about the KNicks. Those are great tid bits you pulled out. I am getting really excited for the season. September should go fast with football starting and the Yankees playing meaningful games.

mets are having a great season too
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9/12/2015  9:37 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

I guess I wasn't paying enough attention when I read the article. Just excited to see something about the KNicks. Those are great tid bits you pulled out. I am getting really excited for the season. September should go fast with football starting and the Yankees playing meaningful games.

mets are having a great season too
Yeah. Not a Mets fan but I follow them a little and have some friends that are diehards. It is always fun when NY teams are in the playoff race/playoffs. I was really hoping the Yankees would win that first game today.
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9/12/2015  9:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

I guess I wasn't paying enough attention when I read the article. Just excited to see something about the KNicks. Those are great tid bits you pulled out. I am getting really excited for the season. September should go fast with football starting and the Yankees playing meaningful games.

mets are having a great season too
Yeah. Not a Mets fan but I follow them a little and have some friends that are diehards. It is always fun when NY teams are in the playoff race/playoffs. I was really hoping the Yankees would win that first game today.
im a big mets fans. Dont hate the yanks but its the mets turn to have a run
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9/13/2015  1:00 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Some interesting quotes from the article....

......we may forget just how dominant Anthony is when at the top of his game. The all-around, individual numbers Melo posted in 2013-14 were incredibly impressive. Anthony became the first player in over a decade to average at least 27 points, eight rebounds and three assists per game throughout a full NBA season. He was also remarkably efficient on the offensive end of the floor. In fact, he became just the fourth player in NBA history to average over 27 points a night while shooting above 45 percent from the floor, 40 percent from three and 82 percent from the free-throw stripe. The other three members of that incredibly exclusive club are Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant.

During his two years in Portland, his defense at the rim was stellar (in 2013-14, only Roy Hibbert held opponents to a lower field goal percentage on shots attempted within three feet of the basket). The Knicks ranked second-to-last in rebounding last season, so they will rely on Lopez to clean up on the defensive backboards as well. Lopez is known for his aggressive box-outs and physical play, which have been sorely lacking in New York.

Both of them were hurt last season and they're healthy now. I see the Knicks being good enough to win 40-45 games. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some early growing pains with so many new faces. I do believe that if the roster can stay relatively healthy, and Porzingis keeps improving, the Knicks could be a sleeper team in the playoffs, if they make it.

i still think we are a year away from even making noise in the playoffs. But i agree if things go right we may be able to grab the 8th seed

I see this team with more upside than the 8th seed. It depends on just how healthy Melo is. He looks really good in the few videos i've seen of him. I think this team has what it needs particularly at guard in order to make things flow as they should. A large part of how things come together is what you have at the guard spots. I'm not really worried about our bigs. I think we have some quality bigs to work with. The real difference will come from our guards.

It's the performance of the guards that will make this team competitive. The better our guards play the bigs will get more great looks for high percentage scoring out of Give n Go, PnR, PnP and penetration off Drag Screens at the top. Also all the cuts and curls in the offense require accurate and timely passes. Jerian and Jose are skilled enough to work those actions in this offense. When you think about how poorly the team played last year and how much better the team looked when Shved was playing aggressively, it gives a small idea of how much guard play will impact how this team competes. The misconception is that because the Triangle isn't PG Ball Dominant that somehow that stops the impact the guards can have. You still need good guard play. I think Jerian, Jose, Afflalo and Gallo will give us enough quality production. Much better than what we got last year by a mile.

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9/13/2015  12:32 PM
The guard position is this teams weakness. Not only will they have to run an offense and in the case of Grant will have to actually learn the NBA completely, they'll have to on an every game basis likely face a guard or two that very well could be all-star worthy.
No issue with the article or the comments made by media in such.
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9/13/2015  12:41 PM
knickscity wrote:The guard position is this teams weakness. Not only will they have to run an offense and in the case of Grant will have to actually learn the NBA completely, they'll have to on an every game basis likely face a guard or two that very well could be all-star worthy.
No issue with the article or the comments made by media in such.
as big of a grant fan as i am i agree it will take some time for him. Obviously galloway needs to prove he can build off last year, and i dont have much faith in calderon. 35 wins seems like a fair number and thats not a bad thing considering we won 17 games last year. I think 2016—17 will be the year we become a legit contender
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9/13/2015  12:49 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knickscity wrote:The guard position is this teams weakness. Not only will they have to run an offense and in the case of Grant will have to actually learn the NBA completely, they'll have to on an every game basis likely face a guard or two that very well could be all-star worthy.
No issue with the article or the comments made by media in such.
as big of a grant fan as i am i agree it will take some time for him. Obviously galloway needs to prove he can build off last year, and i dont have much faith in calderon. 35 wins seems like a fair number and thats not a bad thing considering we won 17 games last year. I think 2016—17 will be the year we become a legit contender

I like Grant as well, but I cant imagine him coming straight in running things like a pro, it took time even for guards who are now currently stars in the NBA. But I do think my 30-35 win total is based on our guards being serviceable, possibly average. That position is deep across the entire NBA
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9/13/2015  1:03 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knickscity wrote:The guard position is this teams weakness. Not only will they have to run an offense and in the case of Grant will have to actually learn the NBA completely, they'll have to on an every game basis likely face a guard or two that very well could be all-star worthy.
No issue with the article or the comments made by media in such.
as big of a grant fan as i am i agree it will take some time for him. Obviously galloway needs to prove he can build off last year, and i dont have much faith in calderon. 35 wins seems like a fair number and thats not a bad thing considering we won 17 games last year. I think 2016—17 will be the year we become a legit contender

Do u know what a contender is?
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9/13/2015  1:26 PM
a contender is being one of the top 6 teams in the league, something that a win-loss record doesn't always reflect accurately.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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9/13/2015  1:35 PM
moke hamilton continues to be a tool.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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9/13/2015  1:43 PM
dk7th wrote:a contender is being one of the top 6 teams in the league, something that a win-loss record doesn't always reflect accurately.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52356&page=5

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9/13/2015  2:30 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:a contender is being one of the top 6 teams in the league, something that a win-loss record doesn't always reflect accurately.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52356&page=5

there is no contradiction between the notion of top 6 teams being contenders and reaching the nba's final four as a real achievement.

but since you went there then please explain to the board how it IS a contradiction.

two choices for "u": "my bad" or <holfresh's special brand of talking mess> or <fronting gobbledygook>

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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9/13/2015  2:35 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:a contender is being one of the top 6 teams in the league, something that a win-loss record doesn't always reflect accurately.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52356&page=5

there is no contradiction between the notion of top 6 teams being contenders and reaching the nba's final four as a real achievement.

but since you went there then please explain to the board how it IS a contradiction.

two choices for "u": "my bad" or <holfresh's special brand of talking mess> or <fronting gobbledygook>

Answer the question I posed to you in the other thread..

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9/13/2015  3:15 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:a contender is being one of the top 6 teams in the league, something that a win-loss record doesn't always reflect accurately.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52356&page=5

there is no contradiction between the notion of top 6 teams being contenders and reaching the nba's final four as a real achievement.

but since you went there then please explain to the board how it IS a contradiction.

two choices for "u": "my bad" or <holfresh's special brand of talking mess> or <fronting gobbledygook>

Answer the question I posed to you in the other thread..

sure. which thread?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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